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Is it the end of EPS?

Discussion in 'General Yamaha Discussion' started by super_rash, Mar 18, 2016.

  1. DoktorC

    DoktorC TY 4 Stroke Master

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    I think eventually you'll see all manufactures using EPS...they each use eps in their respective ATV's so they've all got the technology. My feeling is the next generation of cat chassis will likely have provisions for EPS on certain models.
     
  2. Mooseman

    Mooseman Lifetime Member Lifetime VIP Member VIP Member

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    Manufacturers that are anal about weight will never have EPS.

    As for Yamaha, as some models get phased out and go to a Cat chassis, it will likely disappear except possibly for the Venture RS line which are really luxo barges. I tried one a couple of years ago and as I age, I will definitely be getting one with EPS.
     
  3. rocky18

    rocky18 Extreme

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    No EPS….no more Yamaha for me.
     
  4. lakercr

    lakercr Tech Advisor Tech Advisor Lifetime VIP Member VIP Member

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    Yamaha reads this forum, and not just the reps
     
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  5. stevewithOCD

    stevewithOCD Beerman Wannabe Lifetime VIP Member

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    MR. Sled himself said Yamaha DOES read these forums. That doesn't mean they jump when we bitch, but they have addressed many issues over the years. I personally haven't needed the EPS, but a lot of guys love it. If they were smart, they'd offer it on cruiser models or an EXTRA like cars of the 60's
     
  6. WVTurboLTX

    WVTurboLTX TY 4 Stroke Junkie

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    I guess you don't read CR's blog. He always mentions reading threads on here.
     
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  7. superfan75

    superfan75 VIP Member VIP Member

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    It would only be smart for Yamaha to read what people on here have to say.
     
  8. Mooseman

    Mooseman Lifetime Member Lifetime VIP Member VIP Member

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    They probably do listen, to a point. It usually always comes down to $$$$.
     
  9. BOUNTYHUNTER

    BOUNTYHUNTER Moderator Staff Member Moderator Lifetime VIP Member VIP Member

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    Ok Big Guy.......I Gotta Ask........WTH IS "amkes steering buttery soft" ...Is this something like Cream Cheese on a Bagel???? or Butter Frosting On a Cup Cake Soft???:dunno:

    :jump:
     
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  10. super_rash

    super_rash Expert

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    obviously if yamaha has a good developpment team, they knowt this forum is just a small sample of the market but if its on here a lot it will make them analyse the demands and probably make a real market study to see if its financially viable. they don't jump when we writte but they listen.if a lot of poeple want something they will think about it
     
  11. biffdotorg

    biffdotorg VIP Member VIP Member

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    You bet he does and pulled no punches when he said, lack of power steering was a deal breaker on his own personal sled. So you know folks within the Yamaha camp agree with us, Power steering is a major differentiator.

    I'm sure if there had been room, it would have been worked into the new Sidewinder, but it is stuffed in there. Chris and I agreed in a quick comment on his blog. Many of us have older bodies than our age would indicate, so EPS is a must.
     
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  12. Sasquatch

    Sasquatch Lifetime Member Lifetime VIP Member VIP Member

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    Nope cream cheese on a bagel is not smooth enough and butter frosting on a cup cake is to sticky! :mod::carbs:
     
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  13. super_rash

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    well i'm really happy eps will live on..lif they could find a way to fit in the sidewineer that would be amazing or a new apex in 2018 anyway i'm happy to see my dog is still alive
     
  14. Riceburner

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    Agreed.
     
  15. InRBigness

    InRBigness Lifetime Member Lifetime VIP Member VIP Member

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    If you don't think that the designers and engineers are unaware of what is said here then you have your head up your ..... People here bitched about the chaincase bearings, starter issues, Japanese ECU, Roller secondary's and a few other things in the Viper. Not only did they address these issues in the Sidewinder but also pointed them out in their new advertising. To me A leads to B and tells me they are certainly aware of what people are saying and finding out. Why not use us a testers with knowledge?
     
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