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Is too much motor oil in the tank gunna be an issue????

shanksyamaha

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Ok I just asked if too much chain case oil was a problem and the overwhelming response was no.

So now, I bought my sled used and the seller had just had the dealer do an oil change. I took my dipstick out to check the oil and it was filled right to the top. I couldnt even take the dipstick out without spilling oil. So I drained some out so it was down to the top of the hash marks on the dip stick but it had been run for about 2 miles with WAY too much oil in it.
Will that cause any problem?? It seams to run fine....


Now that I can see that they didn't have a clue how to properly fill the oil tank. It makes me wonder what else they did wrong???

I hate to spend the extra money but think Im gunna do another oil change myself just so I know what kinda oil is in it, how much, and that it was done right..
I just have a little OCD and sometimes I cant stop thinking about things until they drive me nuts....

What ya think????
 

Exactly, what else did they do wrong!!! Are you in comunication with the previous owner?? If so I would have him question the dealer and see what is up. Maybe they just dumped all the oil in at once without starting in and letting it circulate???Don't know. But if I read your post corectly there was way to much oil in it in the first place. Don't know if it will hurt but if you are worried about money the $40 or $50 now for oil will be a lot cheaper then not changing and finding a problem. I would check your air box for oil in it also.
 
I'd just drain all of the oil (reservoir & motor base) into CLEAN containers, like large plastic coffee grind jar type and re-measure qty's, just get a empty 1L oil container as a measuring guide...put 2L in your reservoir and start her up for a couple of minutes then add the remainder about 1L in the reservoir, (3L total +/- w/o changing filter) you won't need as much oil cuz you didn't change your filter...start her up again and let it warm up real good then shut her down, wait a few minutes and check level add if need to...everything should be fine.

PS I'd look for someone else to do your next oil change! Do it yourself its not that big of a deal... ;)!
 
When you check the oil you don't screw it back in. The manual says to put it back just before you screw it and pull it out to check true level.
 
yeah there rae some real idiots out there working on peoples toys. pisses me off when you here stuff like this. this is why dealers get what they pay for so to speak. they would rather take some pee on kid that changed the spark plugs in his sled once and pay him 10.00/hr if hes lucky, then to pay a real service tech the money he/she deserves that is certified in the industry that will get the job done right, and the first tim around. anyway not to highjack your thread, to answer your question. you will be fine. these are dry sump systems. so the res tank would just overflow out if overfilled. the motor only takes what it needs for oil. but i would get some lighter synthetic in there.
 
CaptCaper said:
When you check the oil you don't screw it back in. The manual says to put it back just before you screw it and pull it out to check true level.

exactly. I would just siphon some oil out to the top of the hash marks with the the dipstick stuck in there but not threaded in at all just seated to check the oil. Then screw the dipstick in plug in the harness and start the engine and bring to operating temp shut it down wait 10 minutes and check the oil level again. Then add or take some oil out to finalize your oil level. Make sure you check your oil level on a level surface. The oil and filter thats in there is probably just fine until next oil change.
 
I don't think it's a problem with a dry sump, it'll just dump out into the airbox.

Anyone agree/disagree?

That said, change the oil since you have no idea what they did to it before you got it...

Mark
 
If you are going to drain all the oil do NOT forget to remove the cap on the top of the engine ( valve cover ? ) I believe the 4 cylinders have one. At least on the 3 cylinders you have to remove this cap or the engine is not vented and all the oil will not drain out.
 
shanksyamaha said:
Ok I just asked if too much chain case oil was a problem and the overwhelming response was no.

So now, I bought my sled used and the seller had just had the dealer do an oil change. I took my dipstick out to check the oil and it was filled right to the top. I couldnt even take the dipstick out without spilling oil. So I drained some out so it was down to the top of the hash marks on the dip stick but it had been run for about 2 miles with WAY too much oil in it.
Will that cause any problem?? It seams to run fine....


Now that I can see that they didn't have a clue how to properly fill the oil tank. It makes me wonder what else they did wrong???

I hate to spend the extra money but think Im gunna do another oil change myself just so I know what kinda oil is in it, how much, and that it was done right..
I just have a little OCD and sometimes I cant stop thinking about things until they drive me nuts....

What ya think????

Did you run it first? Engine has to be warmed up 10-15minutes before checking oil.
 
Sled Dog said:
CaptCaper said:
When you check the oil you don't screw it back in. The manual says to put it back just before you screw it and pull it out to check true level.

exactly. I would just siphon some oil out to the top of the hash marks with the the dipstick stuck in there but not threaded in at all just seated to check the oil. Then screw the dipstick in plug in the harness and start the engine and bring to operating temp shut it down wait 10 minutes and check the oil level again. Then add or take some oil out to finalize your oil level. Make sure you check your oil level on a level surface. The oil and filter thats in there is probably just fine until next oil change.

Yes, This is what I did, I know enough not to screw the dip stick in to check, If you read the entire post, The oil was full to the top of the tank. It was as full as it could get.

I did drain some oil out (about a quart) and It is down to the top of the hash marks now.

I also did warm it up for about 15minutes before checking, actually I rode it around....

I think Im gunna ride it for a few miles and recheck it. If it is ok, Im gunna run it until I get around 800 miles on it and change it to 0w30 synthetic. I just dont want to switch to syn too early.


P.S.

ITS SNOWING LIKE HELL RIGHT NOW :jump: :jump: :jump:
 
mud99 said:
I don't think it's a problem with a dry sump, it'll just dump out into the airbox.

Anyone agree/disagree?

That said, change the oil since you have no idea what they did to it before you got it...

Mark

From what I've heard, if you over fill it too much it'll puke the excess out into the airbox, creating a mess. It won't harm the motor.
 
mud99 said:
I don't think it's a problem with a dry sump, it'll just dump out into the airbox.

Anyone agree/disagree?

That said, change the oil since you have no idea what they did to it before you got it...

Mark

Agree ;)!

Overfilling a dry sump will result in oil being sucked into the airbox. Overfilling a wet sump, on the other hand, is much more serious. Basically, the counter weights on the crankshaft will "whip" the oil causing foaming.
 
Well, I checked the air box and no oil so I dont think it was run much with too much oil. I only put a mile on it and the other owner didn't ride it since the oil change. I would like to get the name of the dealer that did the oil change.. maybe I'll email him and see if I can get any info..
 


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