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What a pita yesterday. Long story. Anyways, brought the sled home and took child # 3 to the park and back literally for 10 min max. Fun little thing lifts the skiis no problem unlike the apex (ha). Pulled back in driveway and started getting a flashing engine light, with no throttle power for 20 or so seconds then it would go away and be fine. Read the codes and in bank 61 had the 30 and 84 codes. Cleared those from bank 62 so will try it again today to see how it runs. Sled has 2500 miles (4000 kms) on it. No backfiring or snap crackle or pops. Couple questions though (in no particular order)
1) hand warmers don't seem to work, odd? Thumb warmer working fine.
2) oil.....its minus 674 degrees out and dont want to get into pulling it apart to change the filter especially since there is only a month left of the season. This will be a summer job. Think I can get away without doing the filter? Plan would be just to drain the oil from the plug as much as I can and add new to the tank. I see somewhere that yami says dont bother with the filter until 10,000kms or something. I would rather just do it in the summer and with whats left of winter i expect maybe to only put 500 more kms on it.
3) chaincase oil, do I need to remove the battery and brake crap to do the chaincase oil? Is there a write up anywhere? Again with the cold , I dont want to be farting around and want to be in-out so to speak.
4) back to the code 30 thing that I cleared. I didnt check last night what my idle was after totally warmed up, but if its less than 1700 I'll adjust to 1800. Are there any pics somewhere showing where/how to increase the idle?
Thats all for now, I'm sure there will be more. Thanks guys.
1) hand warmers don't seem to work, odd? Thumb warmer working fine.
2) oil.....its minus 674 degrees out and dont want to get into pulling it apart to change the filter especially since there is only a month left of the season. This will be a summer job. Think I can get away without doing the filter? Plan would be just to drain the oil from the plug as much as I can and add new to the tank. I see somewhere that yami says dont bother with the filter until 10,000kms or something. I would rather just do it in the summer and with whats left of winter i expect maybe to only put 500 more kms on it.
3) chaincase oil, do I need to remove the battery and brake crap to do the chaincase oil? Is there a write up anywhere? Again with the cold , I dont want to be farting around and want to be in-out so to speak.
4) back to the code 30 thing that I cleared. I didnt check last night what my idle was after totally warmed up, but if its less than 1700 I'll adjust to 1800. Are there any pics somewhere showing where/how to increase the idle?
Thats all for now, I'm sure there will be more. Thanks guys.
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On the oil filter, some will disagree vehemently but here is the word from Yamaha ... change every 20k km. Your sled probably has just 3200 on this filter, that is if it got the proper service at 800km. I'd ride, minus 674 is cold.
The handwarmers seem to often turnout to be a ground block issue, which is something you will want to address eventually.
There are good threads with photos on the idle screw but I'll be damned if I can find them.
The handwarmers seem to often turnout to be a ground block issue, which is something you will want to address eventually.
There are good threads with photos on the idle screw but I'll be damned if I can find them.
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That hole does not lead to an idle screw lol.
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Why did turning it (philips screw in that hole) counter clockwise lower my idle, and turning it clockwise raise the idle?
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On the oil filter, some will disagree vehemently but here is the word from Yamaha ... change every 20k km. Your sled probably has just 3200 on this filter, that is if it got the proper service at 800km. I'd ride, minus 674 is cold.
The handwarmers seem to often turnout to be a ground block issue, which is something you will want to address eventually.
There are good threads with photos on the idle screw but I'll be damned if I can find them.
Thanks I made the executive decision and just going to drain and fill skipping the oil filter this time. Found faintly written with a sharpie "full service done @ 1800kms" on the underside of the belt cover. Figured meh, I'll likely be fine regardless if that included new filter or not.
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You are absolutely correct about the idle adjustment, my apologies. Who knew lol
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No problem bro. I winged it and was like aha! There was no little rubber grommet plug thing on mine though.
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Funny thing is I had an 07 for 3 years in the fleet for my daughter and never knew it was there lol. Put 6000kms on it and never adjusted the idle. It ran flawlessly
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Did you get another test run on it.
Sounds like the tinkering is going good
Sounds like the tinkering is going good
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Did you get another test run on it.
Sounds like the tinkering is going good
Hey bro. Yep oil change/chaincase oil all done and whatever I could tweak I did. Fires right up and even seems to run smoother. The oil and gear oil was.... Well I don't want to explain what it looked like ckmejng out of the sled. It obviously went much longer than I would have left it.
Next bug is no bar warmers. I noticed that I turn them on, adjust to whatever setting on the disolay, thne one that display resumed to normal whan I hit the had warmer button again its like they were completely off. Know what I mean?
Aside from no heat at all, it's not keeping its memory either. This leads me to believe it's something electrical, ground fuse? related but where to start?
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Throttle side of sled. Pull cover off and the big yellow block with all the black wires coming into it. Ground block. Open cover on top, kinda a pain. If all black that may be issue. I thought it was fixed in that year but worth checking.
All I did on my old 07 wedged thick gauge wire on there, taped up the block and grounded to frame. Been fine and still running fine. Sold sled to buddy when I got my 14 XTX.
Almost same thing in my 07. Setting warmers to, I wanna say just over half, seemed to work best. They weren’t great but I did notice running at a lower cruising speed they would warm up. (5-6k rpm) anything over that it’s like they weren’t working. I think stator puts out max voltage at 5k of around 440watts. Never pin pointed tho.
Yamahas new warmers much better tho. My hands burn down n my XTX at lower rpm but perfect at higher.
All I did on my old 07 wedged thick gauge wire on there, taped up the block and grounded to frame. Been fine and still running fine. Sold sled to buddy when I got my 14 XTX.
Almost same thing in my 07. Setting warmers to, I wanna say just over half, seemed to work best. They weren’t great but I did notice running at a lower cruising speed they would warm up. (5-6k rpm) anything over that it’s like they weren’t working. I think stator puts out max voltage at 5k of around 440watts. Never pin pointed tho.
Yamahas new warmers much better tho. My hands burn down n my XTX at lower rpm but perfect at higher.
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Ok thanks a lot will check it out a little later.
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Good to hear she’s running better too btw.
I do same thing. Interval is 10k. But I still dump oil with no filter every fall. Every vehicle I’ve owned, minus my excursion with 6.0 diesel, filters every second change. I do my chain case often tho. It’s 10 mins and that takes a beating. Currently getting water in mine and keeping an eye on.
I do same thing. Interval is 10k. But I still dump oil with no filter every fall. Every vehicle I’ve owned, minus my excursion with 6.0 diesel, filters every second change. I do my chain case often tho. It’s 10 mins and that takes a beating. Currently getting water in mine and keeping an eye on.
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Good to hear she’s running better too btw.
I do same thing. Interval is 10k. But I still dump oil with no filter every fall. Every vehicle I’ve owned, minus my excursion with 6.0 diesel, filters every second change. I do my chain case often tho. It’s 10 mins and that takes a beating. Currently getting water in mine and keeping an eye on.
The engine oil was verryyyyy runny and pretty dark. yuck. The chaincase oil was tar colored, bad lol. At least the sled is in a good home, it'll be taken care of now hahahah.
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