Nytro Starting Issues - Relay

farmac said:
My 2010 XTX would not start on friday night after a day of playing in the powder. It flashed code 43 (fuel pump relay) it was -25 C 2:30 in the morning and I was in the middle of nowhere. I tried to pull the relay but its in a heck of a spot. After much deliberation the decision was made that one might "relieve" himself on the relays. Worked like a charm!


I Luv it!! ;)
 
Re: 2011 Nytro with Relay Issue

nytroxtx17 said:
Yamaha made a fix to the relays for 2011, which I installed into my 2009 Nytro as I mentioned above. A friend of mine has a 2011 Nytro and it's fuel injection relay froze on a -27 celcius night (with a good windchill). Took the first relay out, warmed it up in his hand and it fired right up.

Yamaha engineering, you may still have an open issue with the relays....It might be a one in a thousand, but it happened.




I have a 2011 xtx with 600 miles on it and it wouldn't start one cold morning. I told everyone to just go on their ride and I busted the huge wall of ice out of the tunnel and pulled the panels off to let the sun warm it up. It started about a hour later. Must of been 30 nice people at the hotel out there trying to help the guy with new broke down Yamaha. Gotta love it!
 
farmac said:
After much deliberation the decision was made that one might "relieve" himself on the relays. Worked like a charm!

I usually save that for Skidoo's
 
farmac said:
My 2010 XTX would not start on friday night after a day of playing in the powder. It flashed code 43 (fuel pump relay) it was -25 C 2:30 in the morning and I was in the middle of nowhere. I tried to pull the relay but its in a heck of a spot. After much deliberation the decision was made that one might "relieve" himself on the relays. Worked like a charm!

You know with the internet, you don't always belive what you read, but in the last year, I have repeatedly read about this improv and then somewhere along the trail.... seen it live. Apparently this is one case of urban fokelore that works and works well!

;)! OTM
 
I too have had the 43 pop up on my sled in the middle of a trip :o|

Has anyone managed to jerry-rig a box to cover all the relays to help protect them from moisture?
 
me learn english good...geez

I have found pouring warm fluid, whatever is available at time, on the relay works well. It saves a guy the pain of removing that relay when its -30. Doo, Poo and pussy riders will jump at the chance; but peeing on the relays will work; I didnt complain to much when I was in the middle of no where...fired right up.
 
So...I'm having a similar issue to NFLD Nytro's . My battery has been tested at dealer, put it in and it started just fine. Next morning and again today my sled was "sluggish" turning over??? Once it fires it runs like a dream. Should I try the starter relay?? I'm going to try it in the morning and if it hesitates to turn over again i'm gonna short the terminals out and see if it "speeds" up the starter.
 
Usually the relay works or it doesn't work. If the starter is turning the motor over the relay is working. Must be something else , sounds like a battery. Ms
 
hi,
trying to start my 'cursed' 2010 nytro at the moment in -21 Celsius temp, the starting is sluggish ending with a clicking noise near the engine, and the battery charger says the battery is down to 50% or 20% after attempts lasting aprox 8seconds.
Its starting so must not be starter relay which i have recently replaced... no codes flashing at me.
Would bad gas give these symptoms?
I have the red relays not yet installed, would they help?
 
Could be slew of things since it is turning over.
The fuel pump relay?
If you have stabilized the fuel - that shouldnt be an issue. Even still, old gas likely would fire.
Still sounds like your battery is weak.
MS
 
What battery did you put in it? Same size and cca? On the 4 strokes you can't skimp on the battery like you can on the 2 smokes, too much compression. Could possibly be the starter as they tend to crank hard when the brushes start to fail but it sounds like the battery. I have gotten a bad one new before. Take it out and charge it full, it should hold 12+ volts for a long time when it is not connected to anything after being charged. If it slowly goes below 12 volts it's bad.
 
I may have had a similar issue with my 2009 Nytro last year...I kept it in the garage all summer. When winter came around, I moved it outside so that cars could come in; no problem starting to put it outside (let it warm up etc...). When we had enough snow to ride, it would roll over but wouldn't start (I didn't check the battery, I could hear the fuel pump and it wasn't overly cold). I pulled it into the garage and let it sit for a bit and she started right up. I rode to the gas station and topped her up and haven't had a problem since (approx. 5 - 5000km last year). The fuel was stabilized from the year before....Only conclusion I can come to is that there was water in a line that froze or bad gas....
 
Thanks for the responses! i hope the issue i have is just a obscure one as sloan188 has experienced. Will pay more attention to how the battery is holding up and get those new updated red relays in there to help out. Im confident the sled would start if it was warmer out, quite annoying though it does not want to start in -21c. o_O
 
I have seen poor starting and charging of the battery and the Starter Solenoid is the culprit, if you take the plug out of the top and pull by the fuses, that top part will come apart, I am better there is nice green corrosion under neath. Call Port and talk to the parts guys... he will tell you all facts. I have just replaced mine again this year because it started corroding and the battery tender couldnt keep a full charge in the battery. My last one was corroded so bad that I actually had full battery voltage going thru my entire sled as residual voltage.... I grounded my meter to the radiator support and then touched the positive to it and it read 12.5 volts! Go get a Starter Relay- $48 at the dealer and yes get the red relays for under the hood too. Just ordered mine today from Port, they have 20+ left in stock.
 


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