Pilot 6.9 ski's installed

[rnusr01]

Anyone else find the white ski loops? My money was refunded from eBay leaders doesn't have them in stock anymore apparently

I found them on Amazon

 

[synaptic3e]

Ok, so first off thanks to Dan for this thread, I had an old set of the 5.7 pilots in my trailer that were given to me to put on my Apex RTX... never got around to it, and the sled handled the way I wanted. So fast forward to the Sidewinder and I've tried every setting, changed our skis to Curve w 4" carbides... my steering effort is rediculous! So on go the pilots! Will report back after this weekend up in the Burg... NH....

 

[silverram323]

Here is a shoutout for ROCKERDAN, my 1st real ride with the new 6.9'skis. The steering effort is a huge improvement, I didn't change any of my suspension when I changed the skis, within 30 miles of trail riding, I dropped my front skid spring to minimum (I was maxed out.)

My xtx was pushing in the corners, so I added some front ski pressure, dropped rear skid some, more trail riding today and I will hopefully get it dialed in today.
These 6.9 skis are definitely the real deal if you hate the hard steering. I also haven't experienced any darting.

Thanks Dan...


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[WINDER1987]

Has anyone had any luck with the ski hardware locally I went to 4 different hardware stores with no luck I ended up just getting the cheapest 2" and 4" hex bolts I could find to get me buy and I will order the correct stainless ones online to switch them out with. What's a good hardware site to us McMaster the best? Thanks

 

[done dooin'_winder up]

thanks dan.

 

[WINDER1987]

What does everyone suggest using for toe out on these? And I didn't see Dan mention the rear rebound just leave it stock?

 

[silverram323]

What does everyone suggest using for toe out on these? And I didn't see Dan mention the rear rebound just leave it stock?

You got them mounted?

1/8" to 1/4" toe out


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[silverram323]

Measure from here

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[WINDER1987]

You got them mounted?

1/8" to 1/4" toe out


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Thanks well I thought I would have them on by now but I have been fighting trying to get the bolt through on both skis for the last hour. I can get it as close as a 1/8" but still can't get the bolt to pins through to the other side of the ski

 

[silverram323]

I let the weight of the sled sit on the ski. Then I used a crowbar to manipulate the ski to get the bolt in.


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[WINDER1987]

I let the weight of the sled sit on the ski. Then I used a crowbar to manipulate the ski to get the bolt in.

THanks I got it crown bar wouldn't work but used a clamp on one side and got it
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[done dooin'_winder up]

did mine myself, use weight of sled, place blocking under inside edge of ski to help put pressure there, put drift pin through from inside to line everything up, large phillips works, put bolt in from outside pulling out phillips as you go, then had to pry up slightly at edge with the last bushing to get bolt through, used hook end of crowbar.

 

[done dooin'_winder up]

You got them mounted?

1/8" to 1/4" toe out


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do we have to change factory setting? and how if so as in what are you loosening and turning inside, outside? no snow anywhere even close to here....

 

[rnusr01]

Using stock SW Rubbers:

Now we need to deal with the rubbers. While they are very close, and much closer then my cat was, I feel they do need to be sized up to allow for a "proper shimming" of the pilot ski, this means the ski will ride at a correct level to the ground, in order to help reduce darting and have good wear of carbide.

I went through a few scenarios, and mountings.....and ended up with what I feel will be really good for a natural built in shim using the rubber. On the DOOs we need to shim them as the pilot naturally(with BRP rubbers) likes to wear toward the front more, and then brings on darting. So we shim our DOOs with Scotts BRP shims. With the way I have modded the rubbers, the shim is now built into the rubber.

Front to back, the rubber will fit, albeit tight. Also left to right squeezes in too. So the overall dimension of the SW rubber fits into the pocket of the Pilot with some force, warmer the rubber is the better, so doing this at minus 30 is not gonna be easy. LOL

What is needed, to allow the bolt to be installed without 5 guys all pushing on spindle, is a small trimming of the rubber on the BOTTOM, forward most section. Flip the rubber over, and on the bottom there are two side "raised" sections of rubber......There is 2 inches from front of pilot pocket to a small ridge in center of pocket, we want to trim this raised section FLAT for 2 inches from front of rubber, as it will not only allow for an easier install, but will lend to a natural "shimming" effect since we like to have more height on the rear of rubber which pushes down on the rear of ski, raising the front of ski. Be certain you have the rubber oriented correctly, with the outside of rubber having the ledge on top(offset of ski stance) before you start trimming, so you have the front 2" of both ledges correct, then trim them off flat. Each ski rubber will have the opposite look when done.

Dan

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[rnusr01]

RD great job on this. One thing to make it a bit easier and safer is to use a 1/2" wood chisel and just tap it with a hammer. Super clean and easy to do.