PROBLEMS BEING ADDRESSED BY YAMAHA

[08NitroRTX]

THe front end is NOT bullet proof! While it does take trail condistions well it is NOT industructable!

It does go through the rough trail conditions as well as about any 'Production trail sled'. Yes it can be broken!

 

[BOUNTYHUNTER]

just stating what I'm seeing and the frustrations of another dozen or so Nytro guys that I know personally.

If your gonna sling it, ya better bring it, and I mean PICTURES! Save your keyboard and throw up some shots. We'd all like to see. Thanks!

.....ABSOLUTELY

If you need help posting those pic's I'll glady help you out as well.


BTW.....I've been helping out my buddy set up his NYTRO and other than a few things everyone else is seeing that is one SWEET RIDE, which will get even better next year.

 

[AKrider]

I've been following all the a-arm & spindle threads with great interest as I know my dealer has seen the problems first hand. I plan to reinforce my front end as well.

I am disappointed in the greater number of chassis issues that are cropping up with the FX Nytro as compared to my Vector. BUT, I know for a fact that my FX Nytro is a faster chassis to ride through the bumps then my Vector. Seems like we are going through the typical first year bugs that everyone goes through when a new sled comes out. It's just the nature of snowmachining and you will definitely save some money if you wait to buy a 2nd year sled.

BTW, I would love to be one of the guys that are sponsored by Yamaha to run an FX Nytro! It certainly isn't the easiest sled to be competitive on this season.

 

[unchained]

just stating what I'm seeing and the frustrations of another dozen or so Nytro guys that I know personally.

If your gonna sling it, ya better bring it, and I mean PICTURES! Save your keyboard and throw up some shots. We'd all like to see. Thanks!

.....ABSOLUTELY

If you need help posting those pic's I'll glady help you out as well.


BTW.....I've been helping out my buddy set up his NYTRO and other than a few things everyone else is seeing that is one SWEET RIDE, which will get even better next year.

Ironic.......Another Nytro owner upset about a weak front end, he's being accused of "exaggerating" by the Yamaha mafia and again--no pictures? I’m not taking any sides on this issue unless I experience it myself, but if another person post on here how great the 09's will be next year because of ALL OF THIS, I will puke then I want a 3 year extended warranty on my 08 and or a great incentive to trade up to the "dialed in" 09. If I wanted to be a guinea pig, I would have went to the lab.

 

[BOUNTYHUNTER]

There's no doubt that the Nytro is new with a few issues. I really like what I have seen so far on the Nytro and your right it will be much better next year, so try to eat something before the new ones come out as Puking on an empty stomach sucks.


I can't emphasize enough about keeping in contact with your dealership about issues with ANY SLED. I would like to see pictures as most of the people in this thread probably do to, after all three spindles. I try to talk to as many Nytro owners as I can when we bump into them and gets their thoughts on their new sled. Like I said before other than the most common problems I am not seeing a lot of this other stuff. That's why I asked, I would post pic's if I had seen something of that nature wouldn't you ?


Yamaha Mafia

 

[08NitroRTX]

Now THAT was funny! (to me anyway)

 

[Unluckydiablo]

just stating what I'm seeing and the frustrations of another dozen or so Nytro guys that I know personally.

If your gonna sling it, ya better bring it, and I mean PICTURES! Save your keyboard and throw up some shots. We'd all like to see. Thanks!

.....ABSOLUTELY

If you need help posting those pic's I'll glady help you out as well.


BTW.....I've been helping out my buddy set up his NYTRO and other than a few things everyone else is seeing that is one SWEET RIDE, which will get even better next year.

Ironic.......Another Nytro owner upset about a weak front end, he's being accused of "exaggerating" by the Yamaha mafia and again--no pictures? I’m not taking any sides on this issue unless I experience it myself, but if another person post on here how great the 09's will be next year because of ALL OF THIS, I will puke then I want a 3 year extended warranty on my 08 and or a great incentive to trade up to the "dialed in" 09. If I wanted to be a guinea pig, I would have went to the lab.

And yet you buy a first year sled? We have a maxim around here, don't buy a first year sled, or you diserve all the problems that come with it. Simple. I bought my nytro and I'll deal with all the problems that come with it, part of the deal. If its that bad for you that you're that upset, trade brands and wash your hands of us. Oh wait, that won't help, because EVERY brand is having problems right now with their new line up, and EVERY brand has blindly loyal fans. I'm quite surprised, these yamaha guys seem to actually admit to problems more often than not. Maybe they havn't seen the problems personally, making it harder for them to buy in? Do you want all of us to just weep and cry and moan and say "yes, this is aweful, they have screwed us, run away and never come back!"? Cause I don't think thats happening....

Why is it that so few are willing to post pics? Thats the question that many want answered. What is the problem with that? If my sled suffered some horrible failure that put me out some riding for quite a while, I'd surely be posting pics of the damage, the problem, and anything else I could. I'd WANT people to see. It flows both ways, this respect and information giving.

All that being said, it sounds like there is a problem, and hopefully yamaha is working on it and getting us a fix as soon as possible. Till then all we can do is work within our own means. Or sell the sled and let someone else deal with it.

 

[BOUNTYHUNTER]

Why is it that so few are willing to post pics? Thats the question that many want answered. What is the problem with that? If my sled suffered some horrible failure that put me out some riding for quite a while, I'd surely be posting pics of the damage, the problem, and anything else I could. I'd WANT people to see. It flows both ways, this respect and information giving.

All that being said, it sounds like there is a problem, and hopefully yamaha is working on it and getting us a fix as soon as possible. Till then all we can do is work within our own means. Or sell the sled and let someone else deal with it.

Very well said, nice post. I absolutely agree with that, it's not about questioning someone rather than if that happened lets see pic's as I would show them 4 all 2 C. I down load them and pass them on to our Reps through our dealership. Like Mr. Chris Reed is always saying about feed back........Yamaha wants it.
http://www.ty4stroke.com/viewtopic.php? ... highlight=
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[Snoxracer242]

First off I want to let everyone know that I come from a long line of Polaris sleds and from the Polaris racing camp. My last race sleds were the 05 IQ race sleds, these things were pretty tough on the snocross track and seemed to take a beating. I can remember being at Shakopee, at the Canterbury National (Semi Pro) and hitting one of the big triples in the back section, I new that I was coming up short so I bailed off the sled only to watch my open mod sled flip repeatedly. I thought that for sure the thing was toast, so I walked up to it and hopped on to see what was all tweaked. I could find anything, except a bent rear bumper, that was it, I thought that for sure an A-arm or tunnel, but nothing. I couldn't believe it.
So now a year later, I have converted the same sled to run on the trail and run pump gas. So I was heading to a friends house one morning to go riding and before I made it to his house I found a railroad iron laying just under the snow. I hit this thing at most 5-10 mph, it hit just the right ski, it flipped me over the bars and popped the sled on its left side. At first I didn't think that it was a big problem, guess I was wrong. It seperated the top a-arm from the spindle, folded the bottom a-arm and all but ripped it from the bulk head. I couldn't believe it, after watching the same sled take many hits in snocross and now this lite hits did all of this damage?
So I guess what I am saying is that many factors can play into the damage being done to these sleds. And this being my first Yamaha since one of my very first sleds as a kid (340 enticer), I am very happy with the sled. I have only a little over 300 miles on it, but have put it thru some pretty good jumps and bumps, and must say I am very pleased with it. I am truely amazed that this thing can handle the way it does in the rough, it is a very well balenced sled. It reminds me a lot of the way my Polaris IQ sleds felt, they are really good in the moguals but are a little less friendly in the flat trails. But I like it that way.

Sorry for the long post and thanks for a great site.

Dustin

 

[john_the_fisherman]

I'm sorry, but I have to laugh about this post photos or we don't believe you thing. Good stuff. What do you think everyone that sees problems with these things is Ansel Adams and walks around with a camera hanging around their neck? It's gotten to be like mechanical voyeurism with some of you guys. Walking into a pit area or someone's garage after they just DNF'd or broke down and snapping photos of the sled is a good way to get your teeth knocked out, but the next time something fails, I'll do my best before it ends up in a dumpster. Fair enough?

 

[BOUNTYHUNTER]

I'm sorry, but I have to laugh about this post photos or we don't believe you thing. Good stuff. What do you think everyone that sees problems with these things is Ansel Adams

I'm Sorry to but I'm not laughing, Just sounds like your making excuses now rather than showing some valuable info that could have possibly done some good. Kinda what I thought was going to happen here


...............And who the heck is Ansel Adams ?
With todays small Digital Cameras I carry mine ALL the time, the Funny thing is So Do Lots Of Other Riders

Oh well off to Work On That Slug Nytro, Darn Boat Anchor

 

[Trussman]

So now a year later, I have converted the same sled to run on the trail and run pump gas. So I was heading to a friends house one morning to go riding and before I made it to his house I found a railroad iron laying just under the snow. I hit this thing at most 5-10 mph, it hit just the right ski, it flipped me over the bars and popped the sled on its left side. At first I didn't think that it was a big problem, guess I was wrong. It seperated the top a-arm from the spindle, folded the bottom a-arm and all but ripped it from the bulk head. I couldn't believe it, after watching the same sled take many hits in snocross and now this lite hits did all of this damage?



Just to add to the discussion.......I did the same thing with my Nytro a week ago. As I stated in another post, I now know shaper bars & RR tracks are a poor mix. Riding about 15 mph...crossing tracks at approx 75 degree angle.....the sled is suddenly ripped out from under me. ....it takes a hard left turn while I continue on straight ahead without it. About 1.5 seconds later I come to a stop.....about the same time the sled is sliding to a stop out near the centerline of the blacktop road.......friggen upside down.. . Due to oncoming traffic, we flipped it back on it's track....fired it up, and drove it to the shoulder. Would you believe...the "tall" windshield is still attached & scratch free, although the black molding around it has been ground down a bit. The brake fluid res., kill switch and the housing it's in, right side plastic, & right spindle all all look like someone took a grinder to them......but NOTHING........is busted or bent.... Drove the sled another 40 miles that day, got back about 3 minutes after the trails officially closed at noon due to poor conditions.

Guess I better go have a closer look at that right spindle..........

 

[Yamahnator]

I'm sorry, but I have to laugh about this post photos or we don't believe you thing. Good stuff. What do you think everyone that sees problems with these things is Ansel Adams and walks around with a camera hanging around their neck? It's gotten to be like mechanical voyeurism with some of you guys. Walking into a pit area or someone's garage after they just DNF'd or broke down and snapping photos of the sled is a good way to get your teeth knocked out, but the next time something fails, I'll do my best before it ends up in a dumpster. Fair enough?

But you started out with this...

Let's put it this way, I am as intimately close to a Nytro RTX as you can be without having your name on the title. This is what I've dealt with so far:
1. Replaced three sets of a-arms
2. Replaced one clip and the other clip is most likely tweaked but you cannot tell until you remove it, then it springs and cannot be put back on. Therefore, you're better off leaving it on until you know for sure.
3. Snapped two spindles
4. Had to fabricate a guard to keep the lower oil line from being pinched by ice in the engine compartment
5. Put about a gallon of black RTV on the body panels to keep ice and snow out of the hood/belly pan
6. The clip is basically a dynamic moving part at this point. You cannot even accurately calibrate the spring rate and damping on the front shocks because the minute you think you have it the clip starts to flex and everything goes out the window again.
7. The rear suspension calibration is spotty and frustrating at best, which is amazing considering it is pretty much an exact copy of last years Ski-Doo skid

Considering the amount of time you claim to have with the sled, and then considering the amount of time that you've spent posting about it here. One does have to wonder why no pics? If you're that intimate with it and that angry over it, any reasonable person is going to take a couple snapshots of the massive damage that has caused the replacement of all those front end parts. Shoot even a PHONE CAMERA that just about everyone has and you haven't taken one pic? You'd think at least after the third a-arm you'd have snapped a shot. Perhaps some don't believe you because of that, but for most of us we just want to see this damage.

Theres been a few reports of this by people who have yet to post up pics. We want to see the pics so we see exactly what is happening. I know if my sled (knock on wood) tweaked something I would have taken pics of it.

This is a community where a lot of people who've been here a long time know each other. So are they going to lend less credence to someone who's either brand new to the forum or has very few posts? Absolutely. Especially when no one can seem to throw up pics for us to see. Just as they would on any other site. Except I've seen much worse on certain other ones. It's natural.

Unchained make sure you have your tin foil hat on. Remember what happened last time you were abducted by the Yamaha mafia... All that blue! So terrible.

And RSD perhaps you think some of us don't ride with Rev's. I've seen too many low speed catches on the outside ski bolt and whammo it's Nun time to fool me.

Is this the perfect sled? Absolutely not. Is it set up "out of the box?" anyone who rides "out of the box" hasn't snowmobiled for very long. Does it have issues? Yes, I have wet boot and I don't care for the stock ski's. Others have handwarmers. Ect... It may not be for everyone, but for most of us, once dialed in, this sled is the best thing that we've ridden yet.

 

[john_the_fisherman]

You should be laughing, because this is priceless. If I didn't know any better I'd leave a tip a for my waitress and come back for the midnight show.

BTW, Ansel Adams was one of the most famous American landscape photographers that ever lived. Once again.

 

[Swiss Sledder]

According to your signature, you don't even own a Nytro. Why are you so excited about it?