Real weight on winder LX GT??

[Svictor618]

Real weight of a 2020 winder Lx GT. Almost ready to pull trigger on one.

 

[fourload]

It isn’t light. I think I read about 630 filled with fluids. Feels much lighter on the trails! Great chassis once you get it dialed in.

 

[KnappAttack]

It isn’t light. I think I read about 630 filled with fluids. Feels much lighter on the trails! Great chassis once you get it dialed in.

It's quite a bit more than that!

Its the same as a 2017 LTX-LE and they were weighed at right around #679-680 or so with studs in it filled with fluids as tested by AMSNOW back then. They are no lightweight or even a middleweight that's for certain. They are heavyweights and if your worried about the weight I'd keep looking.

I'm a little guy and like light machines, but the Winder handles and rides well enough that I don't mind it while riding, but by no means am I "manhandling" it. My Doo 1200 was lighter by a whole bunch! Like 70 or so whole bunches, yet I still like the Winder even though I can't lift the back end very well. If I get stuck, which I've never done, I'd have to call in the troops or a helicopter. LOL!

 

[Svictor618]

I'm riding a 2006 Yamaha vector now. And the heavy steering of that is not bothersome to me what's so ever. So I'm thinking it'll be a good fit for me.

 

[WinderFab]

I only have just over 1000k and it’s night and day better than my eps apex, feels way lighter, handles way better, I’ve loving this sled more and more every ride.

When I did pick it up from the dealer the steering took all my effort to turn, had to adjust the suspension and all is good..

 

[kinger]

4 scaled my BTX SE with half tank of fuel and it was 610lbs. See signature for comparison. The SE is the lightest of the bunch missing a lot of nice features on the LTX GTs. Also BTX uncoupled rear suspension is bare bones too. I can see the trail sleds being 30lbs heavier but I don't see them being close to 700lbs that was apex MTX territory. Once I get it back from the shop I will fill it full of gas and weigh again to double check. Also for the record my modified 4 scaled apex was way lighter feeling, more weight in the rear is better, the winders are nose heavy. Its been broke to much to play with suspension, I am hoping I can get it balanced better with some suspension settings (taller front, softer rear, etc).

 

[Svictor618]

I hear that they have issues. But all of the sleds I've owned have also. Just trying to grow a set get one. Love the feed back. I'm ready to make investment just wanna make the right one!

 

[KnappAttack]

This will take the BS out of it for ya. Same people, and same scales used. Looks like the Vector is the same weight as the Sidewinder. Not sure why though the Thundercat is 13 lbs heavier than a LTX-LE weight the same year.


http://www.amsnow.com/reviews/racing-shootouts/2017/03/real-world-shootout-2017

2017 Real World Wet Weights
Arctic Cat XF 8000 Cross Country: 626 lbs.
Arctic Cat Thundercat*: 684 lbs.
Polaris 800 Rush XCR*: 547 lbs.
Polaris 800 Switchback Assault 144: 584 lbs.
Ski-Doo MXZ X 850*: 601 lbs.
Ski-Doo Renegade X 850 : 597 lbs.
Yamaha Sidewinder L-TX LE*: 671 lbs.

*Equipped with Stud Boy studs & carbides

2016 Real World Wet Weights
Arctic Cat XF 8000 CrossTrek: 637 lbs.
Arctic Cat ZR 9000 Limited**: 683 lbs.
Polaris 600 Switchback Pro-S: 559 lbs.
Polaris 800 Switchback Pro-X w/storage rack: 592 lbs.
Ski-Doo MXZ X-RS 800 (129)**: 604 lbs.
Ski-Doo Renegade Backcountry 800: 571 lbs.
Yamaha SR Viper L-TX LE w/MPI Turbo**: 630 lbs.

**Equipped with Woody’s studs & carbides.



http://www.amsnow.com/news/racing-shootouts/2007/03/2007-real-world-shoot-out-snow-brawl

2007 Real World weights
Arctic Cat F8 Sno Pro LXR: (153 Stud Boy PowerPoint kit) 652 lbs.

Arctic Cat Jaguar: 659 lbs.

Polaris Dragon 700: (144 Stud Boy PowerPoint kit w/support nuts) 593 lbs.

Polaris FST: 676 lbs.

Ski Doo Blizzard 800: (144 Stud Boy PowerPoint kit w/support nuts) 586 lbs.

Ski-Doo Renegade 1000: 658 lbs.

Yamaha Phazer: 563 lbs.

Yamaha Attak: 691 lbs.



http://www.amsnow.com/news/racing-shootouts/2010/03/2010-amsnows-real-world-shootout

2011 Wet Weights and MPG
SLED WEIGHT/ LBS.

Arctic Cat Sno Pro 500 w/studs
551


Polaris 600 Rush w/studs
564


Ski-Doo GSX LE
618


Arctic Cat F8 Sno Pro w/ studs
623


Yamaha Vector LTX GT
676


Arctic Cat Z1 Turbo Sno Pro (2009 base model w/ studs)
723*


* Wet weight used is a studded 2009 Z1 turbo, the 2010 model was unavailable



http://www.amsnow.com/news/racing-shootouts/2009/03/reality-check

 

[Svictor618]

Nice.Thank you

 

[marc001]

Those Ski Doo 850's are tanks!

 

[fourload]

This will take the BS out of it for ya. Same people, and same scales used. Looks like the Vector is the same weight as the Sidewinder. Not sure why though the Thundercat is 13 lbs heavier than a LTX-LE weight the same year.


http://www.amsnow.com/reviews/racing-shootouts/2017/03/real-world-shootout-2017

2017 Real World Wet Weights
Arctic Cat XF 8000 Cross Country: 626 lbs.
Arctic Cat Thundercat*: 684 lbs.
Polaris 800 Rush XCR*: 547 lbs.
Polaris 800 Switchback Assault 144: 584 lbs.
Ski-Doo MXZ X 850*: 601 lbs.
Ski-Doo Renegade X 850 : 597 lbs.
Yamaha Sidewinder L-TX LE*: 671 lbs.

*Equipped with Stud Boy studs & carbides

2016 Real World Wet Weights
Arctic Cat XF 8000 CrossTrek: 637 lbs.
Arctic Cat ZR 9000 Limited**: 683 lbs.
Polaris 600 Switchback Pro-S: 559 lbs.
Polaris 800 Switchback Pro-X w/storage rack: 592 lbs.
Ski-Doo MXZ X-RS 800 (129)**: 604 lbs.
Ski-Doo Renegade Backcountry 800: 571 lbs.
Yamaha SR Viper L-TX LE w/MPI Turbo**: 630 lbs.

**Equipped with Woody’s studs & carbides.



http://www.amsnow.com/news/racing-shootouts/2007/03/2007-real-world-shoot-out-snow-brawl

2007 Real World weights
Arctic Cat F8 Sno Pro LXR: (153 Stud Boy PowerPoint kit) 652 lbs.

Arctic Cat Jaguar: 659 lbs.

Polaris Dragon 700: (144 Stud Boy PowerPoint kit w/support nuts) 593 lbs.

Polaris FST: 676 lbs.

Ski Doo Blizzard 800: (144 Stud Boy PowerPoint kit w/support nuts) 586 lbs.

Ski-Doo Renegade 1000: 658 lbs.

Yamaha Phazer: 563 lbs.

Yamaha Attak: 691 lbs.



http://www.amsnow.com/news/racing-shootouts/2010/03/2010-amsnows-real-world-shootout

2011 Wet Weights and MPG
SLED WEIGHT/ LBS.

Arctic Cat Sno Pro 500 w/studs
551


Polaris 600 Rush w/studs
564


Ski-Doo GSX LE
618


Arctic Cat F8 Sno Pro w/ studs
623


Yamaha Vector LTX GT
676


Arctic Cat Z1 Turbo Sno Pro (2009 base model w/ studs)
723*


* Wet weight used is a studded 2009 Z1 turbo, the 2010 model was unavailable



http://www.amsnow.com/news/racing-shootouts/2009/03/reality-check

Ouch. A little heavier than I thought. I am pretty big and have no problems tossing it around on the trails but It is heavy to lift and move around. The back weighs a ton with snow in the tunnel. My wife’s 600 Rush is so easy to move around . Her sled is almost too light on the lake for me.

 

[snowbeast]

Ouch. A little heavier than I thought. I am pretty big and have no problems tossing it around on the trails but It is heavy to lift and move around. The back weighs a ton with snow in the tunnel. My wife’s 600 Rush is so easy to move around . Her sled is almost too light on the lake for me.

Agree,that was the main reason I sold my doo 800xp 08,once out on a lake running WO the cross winds caught the front end and pulled the whole sled a foot to the side,and at 100 plus that can be upsetting. So back to a one ton lol.

 

[towman]

i just put my winder ltx-dx on the scale 1.75 track vertical steering full of fluids but no ice or snow 650 lbs on my certified truck scale

 

[Hammer70]

2020 t cat 1/2 tank fuel 144 studs

 

[snowbeast]

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2020 t cat 1/2 tank fuel 144 studs

Not bad,those are very nice scales,its good to see the balance points between each side,and front to back,i do think if you had the tank completely full,you would have been close to the 670 lbs most of our winders/thundercats weigh,we don't have feather lite sleds,but I don't want one,i like the weight when running hard.