ClutchMaster
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It reminds me of my 2007 Harley when they went from the 88 cubic inch motor to the 96 cubic inch stroker engine. Reviews were the new 96 would pull out your arm sockets. Salesman were all over that! In reality the 96 was only 2 more horsepower on the dyno.
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It reminds me of my 2007 Harley when they went from the 88 cubic inch motor to the 96 cubic inch stroker engine. Reviews were the new 96 would pull out your arm sockets. Salesman were all over that! In reality the 96 was only 2 more horsepower on the dyno.
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was there a lot more torque ?
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Its torque that pulls your arms out!It reminds me of my 2007 Harley when they went from the 88 cubic inch motor to the 96 cubic inch stroker engine. Reviews were the new 96 would pull out your arm sockets. Salesman were all over that! In reality the 96 was only 2 more horsepower on the dyno.
ClutchMaster
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I owned both the 88 cube and the 96 cube motors in softails, trust me it was identical acceleration. I raced them side by side many times, no difference.Its torque that pulls your arms out!
I’m just so tired of marketing hype, I make zero decisions based upon what others are saying. I will test the product for myself Thankyou.
Hey Squatch what’s the formula for horsepower?
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Horsepower pulls your arms out.Its torque that pulls your arms out!
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HORSEPOWER = (3,000 X 6) / 63,025 = 0.286
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Sasquatch
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I owned both the 88 cube and the 96 cube motors in softails, trust me it was identical acceleration. I raced them side by side many times, no difference.
I’m just so tired of marketing hype, I make zero decisions based upon what others are saying. I will test the product for myself Thankyou.
Hey Squatch what’s the formula for horsepower?
(torque x rpm) / 5252 = hp
Sasquatch
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Horsepower pulls your arms out.
Without torque there is no HP.
ClutchMaster
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Without torque there is no HP.
Without rpm there’s no power either.
Both are an equal share. Torque can be increased through gearing.
A Huey helicopter turbine engine only has a couple of foot pounds of torque yet through huge gear reduction it’s able to swing those blades and become airborne.
In the case of the Harley 88 cube vs the 96 cube. The 96 cubic inch motor has an even longer stroke than the 88, which is already an over square motor to begin with.
More torque yes but at a lower rpm.
Horsepower is the amount of work done over time (1 minute to be exact) that’s why it’s king.
You can make 1000 ft/lbs of torque with a 5 horsepower motor but the output shaft speed is only 26 rpm. Not gonna move a vehicle very fast with that!
ClutchMaster
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You don’t clutch a snowmobile at it peak torque number rpm now do you? Hell no it would be a dog.
You clutch it at the peak horsepower rpm, then it rips your arms off!
You clutch it at the peak horsepower rpm, then it rips your arms off!
Rich Kay
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YA YA YA.....You don’t clutch a snowmobile at it peak torque number rpm now do you? Hell no it would be a dog.
You clutch it at the peak horsepower rpm, then it rips your arms off!
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Have to say I'm pretty happy with my sidewinder...been trouble free, but had my arms sewed back on twice..I guess if I don't want my arms ripped out again, I should get a ski dont! LOL!
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this new oxygen helmet,who makes it? Most all of my Doo helmets work well w/or w/out glass,s.But wait for the New updated shield to be had in the fall .
SumpBuster
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Had to retire my Doo modular, and got a Doo bvs mid season. Have to say it works fantastic. Lots of adjustability and sealed tight.this new oxygen helmet,who makes it? Most all of my Doo helmets work well w/or w/out glass,s.
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