Round or Square, Aluminum or Nylon backers when studding?

[ApexerER]

I am going to order studs for my new apex asap. I have never used anything other than square aluminum backers. I was wondering what everyone else is running. Has anyone used round backers? How do the nylon backers hold up. Thank you for your input

 

[1CrazySledder]

Re: Round or Square, Aluminum or Nylon backers when studding

I am going to order studs for my new apex asap. I have never used anything other than square aluminum backers. I was wondering what everyone else is running. Has anyone used round backers? How do the nylon backers hold up. Thank you for your input

I have always used round backers. The plastic ones are lighter than the aluminum. I would never run square backers as if they turn, they can put a hole in your track. I've seen it. Go with the round backers. If you are running 1.375's, I would also use the taller backers that have a shank on them for better stud support. This was my old set up and I never pulled or bent a stud.

1.25 RipSaw with 192 1.375 ss studs. Top guns all the way.

-Vince

 

[Yeller]

I've had the best of luck with the round aluminum backers. I have had round plastic crack and break on me and I've lost studs with these backers. I will only use round aluminum from now on. I would never consider square backers.

 

[ApexerER]

Re: Round or Square, Aluminum or Nylon backers when studding

I am going to order studs for my new apex asap. I have never used anything other than square aluminum backers. I was wondering what everyone else is running. Has anyone used round backers? How do the nylon backers hold up. Thank you for your input

I have always used round backers. The plastic ones are lighter than the aluminum. I would never run square backers as if they turn, they can put a hole in your track. I've seen it. Go with the round backers. If you are running 1.375's, I would also use the taller backers that have a shank on them for better stud support. This was my old set up and I never pulled or bent a stud.

1.25 RipSaw with 192 1.375 ss studs. Top guns all the way.
-Vince

Do you use the plastic or aluminum? I was going to order the plastic ones but it was posted that they break. Do your 1.375 top guns hit anything because that is what i was going to order.

 

[Grimm]

I've heard that the plastic backers don't hold up as well as the aluminum.

I installed square backers on my old sled, torqued to spec, and they ended up turning up to 90 degrees, which is not healthy for the track. After each ride, I would check to see if any more had spun and I would readjust them. What a pain.

Go with round aluminum ones, it doesn't matter if they turn.

 

[1CrazySledder]

Interesting...After many, many miles of use, I have never had one single plastic backer break or anything?

-1CS

 

[Yamahammer485]

I say square backers, aluminum ones. They have a little more surface area than the round ones, which = less chance of pullthroughs. I used to run round ones, and had so many bend and pull through onme that it was sick. Ended up converting all to square during the season (preety much studding done twice per season) and never had a problem since.

Im using the square woodys powdercoated blue with blue loctite on the woodys bignuts/star washers.

Also, after studding, then going for your ride, make sure to tighten them all down again, and ya, it sucks but if you dont, you will get pull throughs because they get loose.

If I had to do it over again, I would use the woodys double backerplates with any stainless good stud, maybe with more bite than the woodys 1.325" You wont have a pull through with these doubles, there is so much surface area.

 

[welterracer]

Go with woodys double backers.. you dont have to worry about them turning like the square backers and they are less likely to tear out..

 

[BlueByYou2000]

Like welter said, go with a double backer, then you dont have to worry about it. If you absolutely have to use single backers, the best product on the market is the Power Plate from Stud Boy. It combines what is best in both a round and square backer. See pic below.

 

[SledFreak]

I agree Matt, that is what I use. Stud boy backers blows Woody's square backers away. Matt, I will be picking up my sled tommorrow. Then I will take the clutch off this weekend.

Later

 

[1xr]

I'm useing Extreme Max 1 3/8 inch alum round backers. Thoses really lock the stud in place, with little to no stud deflection. They are very tough also.

 

[rehm70]

The plastic backers do not hold the stud as tightly as the alum, therefore I believe they "bend over" and you lose penetration.

 

[SharkAttak]

round aluminum backers with the taller nut, no spinning or bending stud

 

[yamadoo]

I have used square aluminun,~ good, but did see the turn twist look bad alot and the occaisional pull thru, plactics broke on me big time, and now I use round aluminun and they always look 'square' or right and have had no pull throughs. BUT I am not as stupid as I used to be.

Now with the Apex I know I have power and do not have to prove it so if the conditions are poor I am less likely to let it rip, well before with mildly modded 700 I was, well always trying to prove something and rode stupid from a preserve your track and stud stand point.

My experience
Yamadoo

 

[TurboTime]

Aluminum & Round or double or both.
Best reliability