shredder
Newbie
Can anyone give me a baseline for the pressure in the (front) air shocks for my phazer? I got this sled new , but dont have a manual for it.
thanks
scott
thanks
scott
terret725
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
depends on ur riding conditions. i run 85 cause its usaly fairly whooped out here and tight corners. i also have the float 2 kit in mine. it upgraded my floats to the float 2 internals. alows u to run a higher pressure with out the spring load ramping up to quick. makes it as hard off the start but not as hard as quick as it use to, a much better ride,
oh also set ur pressure with the front of the sled suspended in the air. cant have any pressure on shocks when u set them.
id start out around 75 or 80 and go up or down after some testing.
too tippy or bottoming out, go up in ur pressure,
too harsh in the bumps go down.
ive also heard of people who run nicely groomed trails run as low as 60 psi to get the center of gravity down so the sled isnt as tipy.
oh also set ur pressure with the front of the sled suspended in the air. cant have any pressure on shocks when u set them.
id start out around 75 or 80 and go up or down after some testing.
too tippy or bottoming out, go up in ur pressure,
too harsh in the bumps go down.
ive also heard of people who run nicely groomed trails run as low as 60 psi to get the center of gravity down so the sled isnt as tipy.
shredder
Newbie
Interesting...
the sled is pretty tippy in the corners, even compared to my rev.
these shocks are not the float 2's
i figured with low pressure (i guess 60 from what you are saying), it would roll even more...
Ill try 75 to start and see how it works..
I dont know what it is now , but it seems pretty stiff to turn..
maybe ill stiffen the front shock in the rear suspension to start with as well..
thanks
scott
the sled is pretty tippy in the corners, even compared to my rev.
these shocks are not the float 2's
i figured with low pressure (i guess 60 from what you are saying), it would roll even more...
Ill try 75 to start and see how it works..
I dont know what it is now , but it seems pretty stiff to turn..
maybe ill stiffen the front shock in the rear suspension to start with as well..
thanks
scott
terret725
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
no 08s and i think 09s are floats. i think 2010s are float 2s. might be wrong tho.
the theroy behind using realy low pressure is it makes the sled sit down into the suspention and lower its center of gravty. there is also other adjustments to counter some of the tipyness like pulling up ur limiter straps and lowering the pre load on ur rear spings.
but when u do that it all u lose travel and big bump compliance. its all finding ur happy medium.
one thing i did was learn to use the tip to my advantage. lot of water bars and rocks in the trails around here. i use the tip to dodge them. also the corners are usaly pretty whooped on the inside so i rail the outside with my inside ski in the air totaly missing the bumps.
the theroy behind using realy low pressure is it makes the sled sit down into the suspention and lower its center of gravty. there is also other adjustments to counter some of the tipyness like pulling up ur limiter straps and lowering the pre load on ur rear spings.
but when u do that it all u lose travel and big bump compliance. its all finding ur happy medium.
one thing i did was learn to use the tip to my advantage. lot of water bars and rocks in the trails around here. i use the tip to dodge them. also the corners are usaly pretty whooped on the inside so i rail the outside with my inside ski in the air totaly missing the bumps.
salomon-skier91
Newbie
wow i run 115psi is that bad?
terret725
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
is that 115 with the sled sitting on the ground or the front suspended off the ground, you will get 2 totaly differnt pressures. you should be setting ur pressure with the sled suspended in the air and the shocks with no weight on them.
the pressure is all relivent on what ur doing and the weight of the riider. if your raceing snow cross or hitting big jumps then 100 psi or so would be good. if ur doin any trail riding with small stutter bumps id say its too much. the shocks are just beating you up insted of working to ur advantage.
the pressure is all relivent on what ur doing and the weight of the riider. if your raceing snow cross or hitting big jumps then 100 psi or so would be good. if ur doin any trail riding with small stutter bumps id say its too much. the shocks are just beating you up insted of working to ur advantage.
moses3m
Veteran
I started out at 75 lbs. But I found it to be way to stiff I then dropped it down to 50lbs and that seems to be just right but I also loosened my front shock on the rear suspension I loosened it till the spring was sloppy then I tightened the nut just till the spring seated in the upper holder I then set the lower nut up tight till it touched the upper nut I then tightened the upper nut till there was 7 mm between the nuts I then tightened the lower nut to lock the spring in place. Wow. What a difference. If anyone wants to know more about rear suspension go to www.snowgoer.com and check out the suspension set up the archives. Excelent starting point
