Sidewinder or 850. What to buy

[maim]

Is there a Polaris site other than on Snowest ?

http://polarisstarpower.com/

 

[Trailgroomer]

www.polarisfiles.com

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[WinderFab]

I was told to help get more transfer , was to pull up the strap , but that would probably make the steering too hard .
There needs to be a balance of comfort and driveability .

Shortening the strap "pull up" would give less transfer putting more weight on the skis...

 

[journeyman]

Sledroll, I haven't ridden one, which is why I recommend riding both before buying either sled. I loved my cat in every way, always thought it didn't feel heavy at all, had a 13 freeride at the same time also. But after my assault, jumping on the cat feels like a step back in time. And I know the winder is much much improved over my cat, not meaning to put the sled down at all. Just think riding both somehow before spending the cash is a wise thing to do

The winder is much nicer than the 1100T version.

 

[Troy Julius]

Yes I acknowledged that in my post. I think the winder is awesome and might own one some day, but weight is weight

 

[jaydaniels]

Well went with the sidewinder. So far I love it. Only issue I have is the heavy steering.

 

[Troy Julius]

Cool, hope you enjoy it

 

[dgjr636]

Well went with the sidewinder. So far I love it. Only issue I have is the heavy steering.

If you went with a LTX I would recommend letting the limited strap out all the way, put 1.25" of preload on the front shock spring and install a set of 6.9 pilots skis. You will not believe how easy to steer it will be with great handleing.

 

[jaydaniels]

If you went with a LTX I would recommend letting the limited strap out all the way, put 1.25" of preload on the front shock spring and install a set of 6.9 pilots skis. You will not believe how easy to steer it will be with great handleing.

Thanks for the info. I actually went with the rtx model but may start with letting limiter out and adding some preload to center shock.

 

[Sledroll]

What exactly does letting out the limiter straps do , and when is that beneficial ?
My limited understanding is , when you sit on the sled it compresses the skid , and the limiter straps are loose .
SO , the only time they would be tensioned up is when you are off the ground , and the skis are in the air .

 

[jaydaniels]

What exactly does letting out the limiter straps do , and when is that beneficial ?
My limited understanding is , when you sit on the sled it compresses the skid , and the limiter straps are loose .
SO , the only time they would be tensioned up is when you are off the ground , and the skis are in the air .

You are correct but I have see straps so tight that they stay tight even when on the machine. But lengthening them will allow more transfer to some degree and allow the suspension to 'drop' more.

 

[stevewithOCD]

When the sled is sitting still on the ground the straps are usually loose. As throttle is applied, the natural order of life will squat the rear & pick the front slightly. If the straps are let out, the front of the suspension will "drop" or "stay" on the ground allowing more track to grab i:e more traction & front end lift i:e front end getting lighter & easier to steer.

 

[stevewithOCD]

TOOO much traction the ski's are completely off the ground. Good for drag race. Bad for avoiding trees...

 

[jonlafon1]

IMO the 129 procross was okay with the straps pulled a LITTLE like hole # two or three.. The 137 likes the straps all the way out > long as they go. Many other small variables and of coarse riding style.. But for the most part the Procross chassis like them out/longer in length

 

[thom0329]

All I can say is all my 850 Doo riding buddies are ordering winders for next year.

Just my 2 cents. If you have a choice the only one that stands out in my book is the Winder.

Haha! Thats a funny book. First I've heard of anyone moving from an 850 to a SW.

I just went from a 2016 Ski Doo Freeride 146' on the XM chassis (with a 1.6 Ice Cobra track) to a 2014 Yamaha Viper XTX (with a 1.6 studded Cobra track, 1200 miles total on the sled). I wanted to try a 4 stroke for the last few months of the season as I had never owned a 4 stroke or a Yamaha. If it was as good as the TY4strokers claim, I would consider a SW.

The Freeride with TMotion was much better handling on trails than the Pro Cross chassis. Off trail there not even in the same realm, the Pro Cross falls flat ...... both uncoupled skids but worlds apart.

I'm glad that other manufacturers like Yamacat are pushing the industry forward with innovative higher horsepower sleds. But to put the Pro Cross chassis on the same field as the Gen 4 (I have only ridden one once but doesn't take long to feel the difference), even the most inexperienced sledder would be wondering who's drinking the Koolaid........... The procross front end is good, but overall not nearly as good as any of my past XP/XS/XM Ski Doos. Anyone can make a high horsepower engine, making a well handling chassis is a little bit different (as we all know Yamaha has had trouble with, hence the deal with Cat). All the sleds are great these days. I wouldn't hesitate to buy from any manufacturer.

I want the best all around trail sled. And the best in my book, or any of the unbiased reviews, is not the Winder. The Winder is the best at one thing, getting to the end of a straight strip. If that's your cup of tea, the Winder is your best sled. For everything else, I think even the most hardcore Yamaha fanatic knows the real answer.

Here comes the reliability jabs from the Yamaha fanatics!

Bash away folks!!!!