Studding an XTX

[yox185]

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[stopdropanroll]

Well here sre some pics of my picks. Also some pics of the custom machined tall nuts that my buddie whipped up for his and my sled. Notice the sweet lip on the bottom and compared to Woody's mid hieght nuts, these are also machined out of billet round stock with machined hex, where the Woody's is tapered hex stock.....

You can see in the pic that you will have two studs together, dont know what else you can do to avoid that with the odd number of windows (57) that this track has.

 

[onlyblue]

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[stopdropanroll]

To avoid the double together couldnt you put every third one in the middle?

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Yeah I guess I could have done that but I wanted to stay close to the rails, but your right that would work.!!

 

[Newfiebullet]

Well, after doing lots of thinking about it, I went and got my studs today. This is the third year in a row I'm studding a new track, gets expensive!

The oddd number of lugs made it a little harder to decide on a pattern, and I didn't want to chance having anything unbalanced. I thought long and hard about going with just 114 using double backers, but I bought enough studs to do 171, with a double and single in every lug.

I'll probaly install all the doubles first and see how that looks. I'd like to keep the track light, but I don't want to be under-studded either.

The thing you have to remember though, is that it's not quite fair to compare to a 121 stud pattern, because with teh same pattern the longer track will give you more studs on the ground at any given time, so in theory you should be able to use a lighter stud pattern then you would with a 121.

Of course I had to question the tipped up rails, and if those studs would be getting much bite, taking load of the rest of the studs. Maybe not, so I bought a bunch to be on the safe side.

I've had lots of tracks studded, and in general I've never found that having lots of them does much to keep them from ripping out. I had either 168 or 192 in my Dragon with the 121 track and destroyed it in 3600 miles. A few pull throughs, LOTS of bent studs and quite a few torn lugs.

Anyway, we shall see. I'll post pics eventually.

 

[stopdropanroll]

Well, after doing lots of thinking about it, I went and got my studs today. This is the third year in a row I'm studding a new track, gets expensive!

The oddd number of lugs made it a little harder to decide on a pattern, and I didn't want to chance having anything unbalanced. I thought long and hard about going with just 114 using double backers, but I bought enough studs to do 171, with a double and single in every lug.

I'll probaly install all the doubles first and see how that looks. I'd like to keep the track light, but I don't want to be under-studded either.

The thing you have to remember though, is that it's not quite fair to compare to a 121 stud pattern, because with teh same pattern the longer track will give you more studs on the ground at any given time, so in theory you should be able to use a lighter stud pattern then you would with a 121.

Of course I had to question the tipped up rails, and if those studs would be getting much bite, taking load of the rest of the studs. Maybe not, so I bought a bunch to be on the safe side.

I've had lots of tracks studded, and in general I've never found that having lots of them does much to keep them from ripping out. I had either 168 or 192 in my Dragon with the 121 track and destroyed it in 3600 miles. A few pull throughs, LOTS of bent studs and quite a few torn lugs.

Anyway, we shall see. I'll post pics eventually.

Good luck, I dont think I will have any unbalanced issues with mine....it's only two studs. You can't tell me that the the track it self isn't off balance some, just like a tire.

 

[Newfiebullet]

Well, after doing lots of thinking about it, I went and got my studs today. This is the third year in a row I'm studding a new track, gets expensive!

The oddd number of lugs made it a little harder to decide on a pattern, and I didn't want to chance having anything unbalanced. I thought long and hard about going with just 114 using double backers, but I bought enough studs to do 171, with a double and single in every lug.

I'll probaly install all the doubles first and see how that looks. I'd like to keep the track light, but I don't want to be under-studded either.

The thing you have to remember though, is that it's not quite fair to compare to a 121 stud pattern, because with teh same pattern the longer track will give you more studs on the ground at any given time, so in theory you should be able to use a lighter stud pattern then you would with a 121.

Of course I had to question the tipped up rails, and if those studs would be getting much bite, taking load of the rest of the studs. Maybe not, so I bought a bunch to be on the safe side.

I've had lots of tracks studded, and in general I've never found that having lots of them does much to keep them from ripping out. I had either 168 or 192 in my Dragon with the 121 track and destroyed it in 3600 miles. A few pull throughs, LOTS of bent studs and quite a few torn lugs.

Anyway, we shall see. I'll post pics eventually.

Good luck, I dont think I will have any unbalanced issues with mine....it's only two studs. You can't tell me that the the track it self isn't off balance some, just like a tire.

You're probably right.
I think studs will throw a track off balance no matter what pattter you use, just want to minimize it I guess.

 

[Lightning Rod]

How bout this one...

 

[scottydog1]

Is 108 enough? I always use '1 stud per horsepower' theory...which would be in the range of 135-138 !!...which would put you in the 144 range.

Anybody that puts 108 studs in a 135+ HP sled is asking for trouble. It puts too much stress on the studs. You are asking for trouble with pull throughs or bending. This is like putting 96 studs on a 121" track, in a 800 two stroke. You have to go at least 144 (121" track) or so on a sled with this kind of power. At the very least, 120. JMO.

Sorry Buddy, 108 studs on my Firecat F7 (140hp) rode 5,500 miles I'm 250lbs and NEVER tore out a stud, bent 3 total....., I trust me I ride HARD!!!!

I'm going with 114 on the XTX, mostly cause too many studs add weight and KILL your top end!!!

Nice Scratch pattern the Double backer pattern will only give you approx 1.5 inches per side of scratch which is like the one my dealer put on mine. That sucks! ! I did a woodys 144 scratch pattern for the wifes Phazer not putting in the out side studs and it covers the middle of the track better. if you look @ this stud pattern the studs in the middle come approx 2" @ the closest pt the double backer pattern listed comes approx 4"@ closest pt. When you get some Ice spin the track and you will see what I am talking about. The double backed pattern is good if you don't drag it. My 2 cents

 

[scottydog1]

Sorry I didn't tell you that removing the outside picks on a 144 woodys pattern will give you a 96 pic pattern.

 

[skyboz]

Hey stopdropanroll, nice nuts! I mean............. anyway, I noticed those on a previous pic you posted.

 

[stopdropanroll]

Hey stopdropanroll, nice nuts! I mean............. anyway, I noticed those on a previous pic you posted.

Thanks, It helps to have a buddie who is a machinest and a HC snowmobiler.

 

[marsh14]

Studded mine this morning. Hooks up pretty good.

 

[Newfiebullet]

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My only question is if you're going to bother putting in that many, why bother with leaving the odd row empty. The pattern would've been more consistant if you went with 4 studs per row for 188 total.

 

[yox185]

4 per would have been 228. I figure at some point you have to draw the line. Weight issues and cost to stud that much track all figured in.