rx1mtn
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Come on guys, "Can't we all get along?" 
I like that kind of press myself, but you do have to know what is chaff and what is wheat. I do have subscribtion to most sledding raggs, but the 1 I read close is Snow-Tech.
I like that kind of press myself, but you do have to know what is chaff and what is wheat. I do have subscribtion to most sledding raggs, but the 1 I read close is Snow-Tech.
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I have something for you to think about..fine maybe Yamaha paid some but if the Rags rave and the sled flops, who is going to listen or buy that rag again....hmm. The owners will speak the truth.... 
Mr Sled, I agree with you, if 2 people buyan RX-1 because of that article, that's 2 more people that aren't riding a 2 smoker. They may influence 2 more to buy an Rx-1 and it goes from there. 
LazyBastard
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Hey, the mags raved about FireCracker and it exploded (literally), and yet people still listen.
monker
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The magazines all post their opinion. 9 times out of 10 that's all it is. That's no different than someone posting from this site how good the RX is. A couple things to remember with the mags:
-It's simply their opinion and not everyone else is going to feel the same way.
-It's a lot easier to believe something when it's what you want to hear.
-3/4 of what you read on the internet is bad (ie cat problems). There's plenty that run fine, but you don't hear about those.
-It's simply their opinion and not everyone else is going to feel the same way.
-It's a lot easier to believe something when it's what you want to hear.
-3/4 of what you read on the internet is bad (ie cat problems). There's plenty that run fine, but you don't hear about those.
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LB, while the firecats DO have a lot worse track record for reliability it's not as bad as we all like to make it. I know many 03 owners who have never had a problem. Just like the other side of the fence harped on the weight of the RX-1. Yes in situations it can be bad, but for normal riding conditions you don't even notice the weight difference over any other sled. Plus reliability is rarely a high priority for mag reviewers. Why? because they get the sleds for a day or even a week and have to critique them. They can't form an unbiased opinion based on that because most of the time it simply doesn't come into play.
Are reviewers, "reviews" skewed? Absolutely they are based off of human opinions. They are no more and no less what a a few particular sled riders enjoy. Take the praise for the RX-1 for what it is. Generation of more hype for 4 strokes. Are they given incentives by the manufac's to post good reviews? maybe maybe not, but for a publication that has consistently bashed yamaha over time I HIGHLY doubt that they all of a sudden turned face (and would risk any credibility they have, cause mags still have to have SOME credibility) just for a little extra change. Besides even if they were influenced in any way, you know they are going to pick up on the honest best part and rave about it. That apparently is the suspension. Coupled with the honest reviews and even "reading between the lines" that is some great news. My BIGGEST complaint about my 04 is that the rear suspension had all the ride quality of a mack truck... To hear such rave reviews from so many people that have ridden it and (messed with the easy adjustments) really gets me excited. So excited in fact that I'm starting to change my idea of getting the wife the vector and just going for the new RX and transfering my stuff over to
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Are reviewers, "reviews" skewed? Absolutely they are based off of human opinions. They are no more and no less what a a few particular sled riders enjoy. Take the praise for the RX-1 for what it is. Generation of more hype for 4 strokes. Are they given incentives by the manufac's to post good reviews? maybe maybe not, but for a publication that has consistently bashed yamaha over time I HIGHLY doubt that they all of a sudden turned face (and would risk any credibility they have, cause mags still have to have SOME credibility) just for a little extra change. Besides even if they were influenced in any way, you know they are going to pick up on the honest best part and rave about it. That apparently is the suspension. Coupled with the honest reviews and even "reading between the lines" that is some great news. My BIGGEST complaint about my 04 is that the rear suspension had all the ride quality of a mack truck... To hear such rave reviews from so many people that have ridden it and (messed with the easy adjustments) really gets me excited. So excited in fact that I'm starting to change my idea of getting the wife the vector and just going for the new RX and transfering my stuff over to
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LazyBastard: You are absolutely correct. Did you ever notice how the trail tests from several magazines often read exactly like the brochures? I buy SnowGoer strictly for Kevin Cameron's articles. I just bought my last AmSnow. It blew. SnowSports actually gets teenagers and women to test their sleds. (Interesting but I don't really care what some kids think or how soft some women found the seat.) I want the straight goods from the experts, preferably with long term tests and properly adjusted suspension all around. SnowTech seems to be as good as it gets.
the best MAg is Snow Tech.
LazyBastard
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Yamahnator said:
Then maybe you could explain why they DID? They're giving a totally different review now for the SAME SLED. And don't even BOTHER saying that a *MINOR* alteration like a cooshier back suspension will make that much of a difference - can you really believe that its so great just because some fat bit*h who has NEVER RIDDEN one says "Its so much softer under my big hairy fat as*". Did the 03/04 ride like a concrete block? Only if you didn't set it right. Does the weight difference make that much difference? Only if 2 extra gallons of gas in the tank can make such a huge difference. Last year everybody said how amazing the skid on the Warrior was, well its the same skid 7.5" longer and with a different shock.
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I have a different read on the situation!
For the guys at Snowtrax to write something good about a Yamaha....it must be GREAT!!!!.....because they have been Polaris, Polaris, Polaris for years. Everytime that I read one of their articles, I would get an upset stomach. Indy 500 this, XC 600 that. bla...bla...bla.
For the guys at Snowtrax to write something good about a Yamaha....it must be GREAT!!!!.....because they have been Polaris, Polaris, Polaris for years. Everytime that I read one of their articles, I would get an upset stomach. Indy 500 this, XC 600 that. bla...bla...bla.
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LB, are you ever happy about anything??? 
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I agree with Meirda on this. The mag has put the rx1 down to many times to flip flop this year so it must be a superb skid. If yami was going to buy its praise thu advertising it would of done so in 03 & 04. Checked the 05 out at spring showing and they are awesome! The more 2stokes that are not bought the better for everyone. (stinks) But who am I to say, just another snow nut Canuck! Where`s Lazy Bastard from anyway, Ottawa?
I agree with Meirda on this. The mag has put the rx1 down to many times to flip flop this year so it must be a superb skid. If yami was going to buy its praise thu advertising it would of done so in 03 & 04. Checked the 05 out at spring showing and they are awesome! The more 2stokes that are not bought the better for everyone. (stinks) But who am I to say, just another snow nut Canuck! Where`s Lazy Bastard from anyway, Ottawa?
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SKID
If you think that a totally new skid is "minor alteration" then you are on crack. If proper set up is so important--and we all know it is--then a totally different set up HAS to be different. If it is better or worse is yet to be determined by the buying public.
LB, do you ever see the glass as half full and not half empty?
If you think that a totally new skid is "minor alteration" then you are on crack. If proper set up is so important--and we all know it is--then a totally different set up HAS to be different. If it is better or worse is yet to be determined by the buying public.
LB, do you ever see the glass as half full and not half empty?
Yamahnator
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LB even if you do dial the rear suspension in on the 03 and 04 it still sucks rocks compared to certain other suspensions on other makes. I don't see why they wouldn't change their mind on the sled.
An easily adjustable, high performance suspension is a large part of a sled. If it weren't people wouldn't go out and spend well over a grand on things like the M10 and such. Add in it's 30 pounds lighter, slightly higher handlebars and seat and it can come together. Perhaps they didn't give the sled a second look in 03 and 04 because they disliked the ride. Either way considering that they've been against any yamaha product for some time I don't see it as someone padding their pocket. I see it as them giving 4 strokes a chance and that finally yamaha has gotten a suspension right. Besides knowing them, if they DID somehow get their pockets padded they wouldn't be bragging about the yamaha suspension if it wasn't good... The brand isn't exactly known for being ditch banger oriented.
LB is just a proffessional pessimist... thats all :ORC
An easily adjustable, high performance suspension is a large part of a sled. If it weren't people wouldn't go out and spend well over a grand on things like the M10 and such. Add in it's 30 pounds lighter, slightly higher handlebars and seat and it can come together. Perhaps they didn't give the sled a second look in 03 and 04 because they disliked the ride. Either way considering that they've been against any yamaha product for some time I don't see it as someone padding their pocket. I see it as them giving 4 strokes a chance and that finally yamaha has gotten a suspension right. Besides knowing them, if they DID somehow get their pockets padded they wouldn't be bragging about the yamaha suspension if it wasn't good... The brand isn't exactly known for being ditch banger oriented.
LB is just a proffessional pessimist... thats all :ORC
snowsweat said:
Supertrax "used" to be the best magazine going for truthful comment, and written by guys who actually rode snowmobiles, instead of some geek with a journalism degree and a job at the snowmobile magazine. They seemed to have lost their edge, but its still better than nothing in October. Snow Tech has been the best for content lately, I agree. But what I get a kick out of, is all the negativity from the some about magazines and the comments written. It's obvious that all the reviews in the mags AND from the internet, that the new suspension is a huge improvement. Some seem to have a problem with those assertions. I've never ridden an RX-1. I owned a 98 and 2000 SRX, which I really loved. Then I got a ZR cat and watched as my brother struggled to hang with me on his Viper in the rough stuff. It wasn't because I was a better rider. It was because his suspension SUCKED, both before and after the upgrade. I've been on a REV for the past two seasons, and it rocks in the rough stuff. I only hope the 03 /04 RX's weren't as bad as that Viper.. Some guys want to rag on some magazine comments that are positive on the new skids. That's fine, but these same guys are kidding themselves if they don't think the Yam skid needed improvements. I don't expect the RX1 is gonna be the bump masher, but I am hoping it rides good.
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