Talk to me about Snow Trackers

[schwaaa31]

I rode my 09 Nytro FX for 2 seasons with Tuner skis and a pair of 6" carbides on each ski. I thought the sled handled pretty well coming off my 12 Ski Doo TNT. The Nytro came with the Tuner skis, and I've never ridden the stock skis, only heard nightmares on how they handled. I bought a 12 Nytro RTX over the summer that came with stock skis. I was going to buy some Tuners for it, and the guy on here from Barn of Parts recommended the Snow Trackers with the stock skis. It seems like a lot of people with Nytros prefer this set up. I was searching for prices on the Snow Trackers, when I came across a thread where people were arguing the safety of them. Some say they are deadly, some say they're amazing, some say they're only dangerous if you don't set your sled up properly for them. What are the thoughts from you guys with Nytros that have them? I ride pretty aggressively, and found the Tuners to push a little more than I care for. Maybe had to do with the cheap carbides I bought too. Anyway, just curious to hear of your experiences. Thanks.
Here's the thread I was talking about.
http://www.hardcoresledder.com/foru...accident.html#/topics/620186?page=2&_k=rqz4ul

 

[Beartrap]

Stock skis with snow trackers is a great trail set up. Light steering and they do not push. It's not that difficult to set your sled up for them - if anything, they reduce the need to fine tune the nytro front end for control.

They are not inherently dangerous. You (and anyone jumping on your sled) just needs to be aware that they will not push. I've never felt any dangerous handling with them. I've also never heard of anyone in real life flipping their sled because of them.

The downsides with them is that they are expensive, there is a lot of hardware under your ski, and they are pretty destructive to trailers, trucks, etc. If those aren't issues for you I say go for it!

 

[SteelerJim]

I agree with Bear trap. The only thing I remember reading about them being dangerous was if you were catching air and didn't come down with the ski's straight on hardpack. I have the MTX ski's with the aggressive trackers.

 

[schwaaa31]

I agree with Bear trap. The only thing I remember reading about them being dangerous was if you were catching air and didn't come down with the ski's straight on hardpack. I have the MTX ski's with the aggressive trackers.

That kind of scares the #*$&@ out of me. I ride pretty aggressively, and tend to catch air quite a bit. Are there any other carbides for the stock skis that are not as aggressive as the Snowtrackers?

 

[kviper]

Anything that does not push will scare the #*$&@ out of you than! If you don't want push and you want straight line tracking the trackers are as good as it gets! Just keep in mind that when your in the air don't plan on landing with the ski's turned because they will turn when they contact the snow. Also don't over steer in loose snow in case you get in to hard stuff, it don't do any good to over steer in loose snow any way but people tend to just keep turning the bars when it's not turning! I have a quie a few mi on Apex's with trackers and only several hundred on my Nytro but I went with the semi aggressive trackers on the Nytro due to more ski pressure and harder steering. Push with the semi's is about the same as an aggressive pair of conventional bars but they track as straight as an arrow! Otherwise the same as stated above.

 

[stubb111]

X2.....snowtrackers work amazing, we have 4 sleds and ran with them for the last 5seasons with them. I ride pretty aggressively with no issues, even my wife and mother in-law run them with no issues. I find the snowtrackers do work best with 0 toe-out.

 

[schwaaa31]

Thanks for the input guys. I'm going to order up the semi aggressive ones and give em a shot.

 

[kviper]

Yes 0 tow and make sure you don't have any more than the stock rubber bumpers Between the ski and spindle (no shim's). The tip of the ski needs to be on the snow to work properly!

 

[kviper]

X2.....snowtrackers work amazing, we have 4 sleds and ran with them for the last 5seasons with them. I ride pretty aggressively with no issues, even my wife and mother in-law run them with no issues. I find the snowtrackers do work best with 0 toe-out.

I put a pair of semi aggressive trackers on a 07 Phazer that I bought for my wife a few years back and didn't tell her because she don't know a wear bar from the seat any way and after the first ride she said this is the first snowmobile that I actually felt comfortable meeting other sleds on the rail bed with due to how predictable it was.

 

[stubb111]

kviper....have you tried them shimmed??? I run mine shimmed and prefer it like that...just my $0.02

 

[kviper]

No but a friend did and he was pissed that he spent $200 for hard steering and poor tracking! Then when I saw the tip of the ski slightly up from normal and figured out he had shims he took the shims out and was blown away by the way they worked. The whole key to them is the defuser needs to be in the snow to erase the previous ski track, plus the more weight you have on the ski in front of the spindle the easier they steer.

 

[alswagg2]

I have removed every single Tuner ski on all of our sleds. I really did not like at all. Instead we prefer the Apex style saddless ski and the MTX ski. both of these are deep keel. For carbides we run Woodies Slim Jim dual edge carbides 6". Handleing is great on every sled. No darting, excellant cornering and very predictable. Good luck with your decision Al

 

[Tommyboy]

I'm on my second pair, 12,000 km and like them a lot. I did loosen my front limiter strap after my first few rides because I was high siding when turning which was a little scary. I had purchased the aggressive set though. Would strongly recommend them

 

[Indy]

I've ran many different ski and carbide combinations. I now run my stock skis with agressive snowtrackers. No push for the 1st time. The best i've ran.