What failing donuts sound like.

SumpBuster

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Or in my case, one donut left. Three were totally gone, with pieces laying under the pipes. This is a 2006 Apex RTX with 2500 miles.
Last October, at our grass drags I told my son the sled didn't sound right. But it did after last winter. It sounded like a misfire...hard to explain, it ran fine, idled fine, but sounded 'off', not a smooth note like normal. Anyway, for the next 300 miles, I would hear noise under the tunnel, and thought maybe it's breaking in, and getting louder. Anything over 6 grand or so and it sounded normal. Then at idle it sounded like a lifter tick from behind the driven pulley. Then the whole sled sounded louder from the seat, again below 6000 grand or so. All the while, the exhaust out the back still didn't sound right at idle, almost like a three cylinder, yet it was running fine.
Anyway, there where no donuts left on three pipes, but no damage to the headers. Plus the bolts holding the y pipes were rusted solid and I had to drill them out to move the pipes back. I pretty much followed Rocker Dan's method, and it is a pretty easy job, except for the rusted crap. I used the copper gasket sealer, and all my clamps tightened up nicely. It sounds like new now, no 'misfire' sound, no under tunnel crackling, and much quieter. All these are signs of donuts going, as there was absolutely nothing else wrong.
Hope this helps...if you have any 'off' sound at all, strip it down and check them. Loose clamps is the tip off once you get inside. There was nothing left to hold to.
I believe aging must also be a factor, as I said the sled sounded fine last march, but apparently did not like full throttle grass runs, for a wake up call in October.
 
Don't know if this has been said before but my dealer modified the clamps on mine so they would hold down tighter. I am pretty sure he cut away some material on the new clamps.
 
Yes, that's been said, but mine started tightening and I had several turns before they bottomed out. I personally wouldn't want to tighten them anymore, as I think this amount is engineered in for proper squeeze. My flanges looked fine, so no reason to overtighten. On car donuts, there is usually just a spring to hold the tension. Maybe they were too tight originally, not allowing some flex???? Car donuts last nearly forever.
 
SumpBuster said:
Yes, that's been said, but mine started tightening and I had several turns before they bottomed out. I personally wouldn't want to tighten them anymore, as I think this amount is engineered in for proper squeeze. My flanges looked fine, so no reason to overtighten. On car donuts, there is usually just a spring to hold the tension. Maybe they were too tight originally, not allowing some flex???? Car donuts last nearly forever.

I agree to a point but cars don't run trails with 2ft plus mogels
 
Ported Hornet said:
SumpBuster said:
Yes, that's been said, but mine started tightening and I had several turns before they bottomed out. I personally wouldn't want to tighten them anymore, as I think this amount is engineered in for proper squeeze. My flanges looked fine, so no reason to overtighten. On car donuts, there is usually just a spring to hold the tension. Maybe they were too tight originally, not allowing some flex???? Car donuts last nearly forever.

I agree to a point but cars don't run trails with 2ft plus mogels

;)!

I thought this, but then our Vector, after I abused it for 2000 miles, and my son is now abusing it (over 4000 miles), the donuts are fine so far. We always ride together, so he hits the same stuff I do, and is usually right on my bumper.
It's not consistent between sleds...
Donuts are the same exact part number...
 


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