What is the weight diff of the RX1 and the Vector?

[buddah]

Thanks, Buckeye!!

(Did you remember to take out the tare weight of the pallet??? :lol: )

 

[Buckeye]

That was Hardcore's picture not mine. But I am sure he did.

http://www.rx1.info/viewtopic.php?t=220 ... ight=scale

 

[buddah]

Oops! My Bad!! :lol:

I didn't read it that you were quoting someone else, I thought you did it. :wink:

 

[QCRider]

Anyway, I'm puzzled by the math. Let's assume my numbers are close and Viper ER weighs 555

This is where our differences begin. I was assuming a dry weight of 525 ish on a Viper. This could be wrong but it is the only number I have seen. The '03 RX-1's were MUCH heavier than the claimed 565 dry. I believe the real world numbers were more like 610 ish. This would also tend to corroborate Buckeye's 700 wet with tools etc.. number.

Yamaha has said that the Vector will be the same as the Viper. I figure that the RX-1 is now getting CLOSER to the 565 they claimed the first year, though 575 might be more accurate. So, IF and I admit this is a BIG IF, the Vector weighs 525 then it would be 50 pounds less than the RX-1. In any case I think it will be in the 535 range and CERTAINLY no more than 545.

 

[QCRider]

That was Hardcore's picture not mine. But I am sure he did.

http://www.rx1.info/viewtopic.php?t=220 ... ight=scale

That picture was of a long track and it came in at 697. 10.5 gallons of gas is 65 pounds, so that get's us to 632. A gallon of oil gets us another let's call it 7 pounds, so 625. A gallon of water, is 8 pounds, so 617. Take the long track off and associated pieces and you're probably in the 600-610 neighborhood dry for a RX-1 Shorty, which is right at what I had seen posted in '03. Take 35 from that (if it is all true) and you are in the 570 - 575 area.

 

[Buckeye]

Dry weight is a gimick. Ever ride a sled with no fuel, oil or coolant?

 

[QCRider]

Dry weight is a gimick. Ever ride a sled with no fuel, oil or coolant?

No argument. Gimmick or not, it is how sleds are compared. I would prefer to see wet weight myself, but nobody is publishing THOSE numbers. With wet weight even a Firecat sounds heavy. 470 plus 72 (12 gallon fuel tank) is 552 plus a gallon of oil is 559, plus another 8 for the coolant is 567. So let's call the a 130 pound difference between the F-Cat and the RX-1. That sounds pretty big. So a wet F-Cat is 80% of the weight of a wet RX-1. Now put me on both of them with gear, tools, etc. Let's call that 280, since I weigh 250 myself. Now the weight difference is STILL 130, but difference in percentage has narrowed as the F-Cat is now 86.5 percent of the weight of the RX-1.

All of this only serves to further the point I made last week. Now 130 pounds is a HUGE difference. But how many people will kill themselves to save 10 pounds when the difference it really makes is MINIMAL.

 

[Yamahnator]

Come now... 700 pounds? I can lift the front end of my sled up. If that 700 pounds were the case I doubt I could get it up.

 

[Buckeye]

If you note from the posts both sleds were weighed on sclaes and came in at or near the 700 pounds. Have you heard of leverage? That is why you can lift the fron of your sled. Try lifting the whole thing from the middle. That you probably can't do.

 

[Anonymous]

QCR,

First off I'm not just trying to argue.........trying to keep things as accurate as possible. Have you ever put a Viper ER and an RX-1 side-by-side and tried to lift both, one at a time? Try that and then come back and tell me the RX-1 is only 40 or so lbs. heavier.

I have (and I can) because I own both. The 03 RX-1 is AT LEAST 80 lbs. heavier than the 02 Viper. I can lift the nose of the Viper but haven't got a chance with the RX-1. :evil: Oh, and by the way, the Viper with fuel and everything is really close to 550 to 560 lbs.

Buddah2 I think that there is a slight flaw with your idea of testing the weight difference between these two machines. If you are testing the weight of the machines by jerk lifting only the front part of the machines than of course the RX-1 will feel alot heavier because it has a 4 stroke engine under the hood. I believe that to get an actual true idea of the weight difference you would have to bench press the whole machine from ski tip to snow flap and than compare the two to which one was heaviest. Give that a try Buddah2 and let us know which is heavier.... lol.....

 

[buddah]

'holic,

If only I could, eh? :lol: :lol:

Too much age and WAY too much linguine :roll:

 

[Anonymous]

'holic,

If only I could, eh? :lol: :lol:

Too much age and WAY too much linguine :roll:

Thought you would like that.... :wink:

 

[RippinV]

At the Colebrook show the rep said the RXI was 12lbs heavier than the Vector ER. Not saying I believe him , but that is what he said.

I would love to get the 04 RX1 on a scale with fuel and oil in it.

 

[RippinV]

At the Colebrook show the rep said the RXI was 12lbs heavier than the Vector ER. Not saying I believe him , but that is what he said.

I would love to get the 04 RX1 on a scale with fuel and oil in it.

 

[Xtremeviper]

It sure would be nice to get accurate info on the wts!

Now look at the rev bieng 470 lbs, lot easier to throw it around.


I had an 00 SRX and that sucker was a tank in the bumps and hard to keep moving in the boonies, I had ridden my viper in the powder, and it was easier to throw around, but still didnt float with those skis and the nipple track. I wouldnt want a heavier sled like the vector for boonie riding and bumps unless it gave you the lighter feel. I dont care about lifting it, cuz when I am stuck, thats why I have riding buds! My SRX tended to nose into the whoops, while the viper skipped over. But the suspension made my eyes wiggle so much I couldnt see!