sideshowBob
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I usually don't run full throttle very long , as I normally have no real need to. As far as engine coolant temp I have not monitored it on my my cluster when WO but the logs show no major increase in coolant temp for under 20 second WO runs.
The belt temps on my Razor belt temp gage do climb more quickly then eng temps especially on back to back launches when drag racing other sleds.
I have never held the SW WO for very long as it eats up real estate very quickly!
The belt temps on my Razor belt temp gage do climb more quickly then eng temps especially on back to back launches when drag racing other sleds.
I have never held the SW WO for very long as it eats up real estate very quickly!
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You also have a additional radiator on your sled correct ?
sideshowBob
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Yes BOP aux rad kitYou also have a additional radiator on your sled correct ?
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Yes I thought you were set up with one… As long as you got some lube you got no problems holding it for a lot longer.. And yes I hear ya running out of Real Estate really fast and saftey is always top concern… You also have the billet water pump propeller installed so you have that covered as well if I remember right…
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Just tell them you want to race them from the dig for 3/4 to 1 mile. They'll see what happens.Nope but lots of mod two strokes for sure
Horsepower builds temperature in oil and anti freeze....more hp more temps...horsepower doesn't kill engines...temperatures do.
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Any tuned 998 will generate more btus than the cooling system can get rid of. I watch my coolant temps allot and any time I'm wfo, I can watch coolant temps gradually climb. Time to let off when I see temps approaching 200. Everyone has to remember the coolant temp you see on the cluster is what coolant temp is going into engine from heat exchangers. The coolant leaving main head hose connection is much hotter than that.
Your right Bob and throw in lean fuel conditions with high temps and it's a recipe for disaster. When your dash flashes knock you just gotta cross your fingers that it wasn't the kill shot. This is why it's so important to data log. Your flash will pull timing long before the knock sensor alarms and often times it's pretty persistent. Most of us that know better will be regulating this and adjusting accordingly. Those that don't will pay the priceNope but lots of mod two strokes for sure
Horsepower builds temperature in oil and anti freeze....more hp more temps...horsepower doesn't kill engines...temperatures do.
SRX’er
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Hi, that clutch is from my 2023 Thundercat, there is 2000 miles on the sled in total, ive only run it boosted for the last 150miles.. no high speed runs, i felt the belt coming apart so let off the trigger, belt failed at 40mph.Glenn,
Did you see this post on HCS with the failed Adapt? My question would be did he blow the belt and break the clutch, or did the clutch fail prior to breaking the belt, either way I'm not sure the Adapt is a real strong clutch either. I believe that they moved to the steel spider on the 858 for a reason and I'd bet this is the reason.
Adapt Primary Failure
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Leading up to this failure i had a over rev condition, sled would hit the limiter(9500rpm) at 3/4 throttle.
I added 4 grams of weight thinking my clutching was light but no difference, im thinking now clutch bind was causing the over rev,
I also have a 2021 SRX thus the reason i joined
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Hi, that clutch is from my 2023 Thundercat, there is 2000 miles on the sled in total, ive only run it boosted for the last 150miles.. no high speed runs, i felt the belt coming apart so let off the trigger, belt failed at 40mph.
Leading up to this failure i had a over rev condition, sled would hit the limiter(9500rpm) at 3/4 throttle.
I added 4 grams of weight thinking my clutching was light but no difference, im thinking now clutch bind was causing the over rev,
I also have a 2021 SRX thus the reason i joined
Sounds like it was loaded way way to light for the tunes then. I'd guess the primary got extremely hot and caused some extreme stress to it. 9500 at 3/4 throttle wasn't even in the ballpark. Not surprised it failed and toasted the primary. Ive seen clutches get so hot an toasty the bushings fall out of them they get so hot. Also seen belts slip so bad in secondary they burn thru the sheaves.
Guess that explains the clutch failure. Can't blame the Adapt there at all.
SRX’er
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Actually i was only running the 240hp tune, and only went 1km before stopping and adding 4 grams to the QA3 daltons, so that put me at 77g’s of weight, should not over rev set at that weight for 240, typically i run 78-80g for 310hpSounds like it was loaded way way to light for the tunes then. I'd guess the primary got extremely hot and caused some extreme stress to it. 9500 at 3/4 throttle wasn't even in the ballpark. Not surprised it failed and toasted the primary. Ive seen clutches get so hot an toasty the bushings fall out of them they get so hot. Also seen belts slip so bad in secondary they burn thru the sheaves.
Guess that explains the clutch failure. Can't blame the Adapt there at all.
justinator
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You shouldnt be anywhere near those weights with an adapt unless your running a coil spring from a 1/2 ton pickup for a primary spring or have a setup with wicked wicked pressure in secondary. Those weights you listed are closer to what would be run in the previous team clutch. Adapt typically runs substantially less due to weight location being further out from center. You definitely had something going on with that clutch that wasnt right.Actually i was only running the 240hp tune, and only went 1km before stopping and adding 4 grams to the QA3 daltons, so that put me at 77g’s of weight, should not over rev set at that weight for 240, typically i run 78-80g for 310hp
SRX’er
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Hurricane recommended 80gs when running 310hp, running Dalton white/aqua in the primary and Dalton Orange Black in the secondary, last year sled was turning up 8800rpms. We are at sea level and typically sleds will pull alot more weight then most aftermarket shops recommend
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