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northernsledder.jk said:Nytro40th said:The earth x batteries have more cold cranking amps, are about 10lbs lighter as well. Higher price though but also last longer.
I'm very interested in one of these batteries! Does anyone reading this have one? What are your impressions?
This one seems like maybe a better deal to me:
http://batterytender.com/products/batte ... 26-35.html
A lot more CCA's, less $$, and a 36 mo warranty... although it's a pro-rated warranty where the Earthx is 24mo full. Earth X has an on-board electronic "balancer" but that seems a little gimmicky/unnecessary to me.
With this charger:
http://batterytender.com/products/motor ... thium.html
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Zero problems starting. Leave in unheated garage all week with -15 to 5 temps and it starts right up on Friday.
Most important thing is to turn key to on and wait until you hear the fuel pump stop priming, then crank it and if it doesn't start the first crank, repeat and it will on the second.
Hot starts, if it doesn't go just give it a 1/4" or less of throttle and she fires right up.
Zero problems starting. Leave in unheated garage all week with -15 to 5 temps and it starts right up on Friday.
Most important thing is to turn key to on and wait until you hear the fuel pump stop priming, then crank it and if it doesn't start the first crank, repeat and it will on the second.
Hot starts, if it doesn't go just give it a 1/4" or less of throttle and she fires right up.
My issue is that the stock battery doesn't turn it over fast enough when negative temps over night. Starts right up after I connect the jump box.
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I have one, i like it.
Nytro, do you have a part # for the Earthx lithium you installed? Is it necessary to connect a trickle charger harness to lithium batteries for off season charging like one needs to on the standard acid lead batteries?
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i dont really care about weight i just want the best cold cranking amp and battery out there....i know the battery in my atv was junk so i replaced it with a odyssey pc680 deep cycle dry cell and its been a killer battery for the last 5 years outside, at this point i feel ill likey buy an odyssey for the sled as well


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Nytro, do you have a part # for the Earthx lithium you installed? Is it necessary to connect a trickle charger harness to lithium batteries for off season charging like one needs to on the standard acid lead batteries?
Lithium Ion batteries do not require the trickle charge like lead acid. They do however require a different charger than lead acid batteries if you want them to last extended, their full useful life.
Lithium batteries do not lose charge over time like lead acid therefore no off season service required unless you have a battery draw which you should not have with your Viper. Lithium Ion Batteries have individual power cells and each one of those cells should be serviced by the charger seperately to maximize power and battery life.
Do a little homework on different manufacturers, they should describe the Lithium Ion charging process and charger requirements in greater detail on their website. I believe the EarthX website ID's the correct Viper battery and also has charging info! They are one of the good guys!!
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Lithium Ion batteries do not require the trickle charge like lead acid. They do however require a different charger than lead acid batteries if you want them to last extended, their full useful life.
Lithium batteries do not lose charge over time like lead acid therefore no off season service required unless you have a battery draw which you should not have with your Viper. Lithium Ion Batteries have individual power cells and each one of those cells should be serviced by the charger seperately to maximize power and battery life.
Do a little homework on different manufacturers, they should describe the Lithium Ion charging process and charger requirements in greater detail on their website. I believe the EarthX website ID's the correct Viper battery and also has charging info! They are one of the good guys!!
Thank you for all the info. I went onto EarthX website and confirmed a trickle charger would not be needed during off season storage unlike a traditional lead acid battery that would require one. The appropriate battery part # is ETX36D for the 1049 Viper. I guess I'm just a bit hesitant to pull the trigger on a $300+ battery when lithium style batteries don't do that well in really cold weather....at least that's what I've been reading.


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Looking for a new battery. Every time it sits overnight and it is under -10F it will not turnover fast enough to start. As soon as I put a battery boost box on it fires right up. I have 700 miles on now and it gets embarrassing that a new sled has an issue like this. Anyone know of a good brand???
Antigravity makes a battery pack I believe it is the XP1 and I will check for model number and correct if wrong. It will charge at 2 levels 200 and 400 Amps.
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We are stocking the earth x batteries because of the auto- shut down feature at 8 volts. Never had a battery go bad from being drained
Funny how lithium batteries work. Drills etc don't do well when cold, but put a set of lithium in a Reconyx trail cam and they are the only thing that works when temps drop.
Low voltage shutdown is a good thing. Poke around with the flashlight guys on candlepower forum and you'll see the cheap unregulated lithium batteries can explode. Not just a little bang either.
Low voltage shutdown is a good thing. Poke around with the flashlight guys on candlepower forum and you'll see the cheap unregulated lithium batteries can explode. Not just a little bang either.


I agree the OP has a issue somewhere. Now we weren't Alaska but we had many days well below O deg f. Mine always started and started quickly. Load test the battery, look for voltage drop at cables and solenoid. The stock battery is fine but even new can be bad.
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I agree the OP has a issue somewhere. Now we weren't Alaska but we had many days well below O deg f. Mine always started and started quickly. Load test the battery, look for voltage drop at cables and solenoid. The stock battery is fine but even new can be bad.
Yeah, wasn't there a note to dealers from Yamaha to fully charge the battery before use due to this very problem?
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I got 3000 miles on my Viper last year without battery problems. And it was a cold winter. I have 8000 miles on my Nytro with the original battery.


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So is the battery in the viper the same as in the nytro?
I had 15000 kms on the original battery on my nytro with no issues. Many cold morning starts in the -30 c range.
Also does anyone know what the cold cranking amps are on the viper battery?
I had 15000 kms on the original battery on my nytro with no issues. Many cold morning starts in the -30 c range.
Also does anyone know what the cold cranking amps are on the viper battery?
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