Would you like to buy a Yamaha RSVector for $186.50?

[STORM-CHASER]

I seen this and thought some might be intrested

Would you like to buy a Yamaha RSVector for $186.50?


Snow Tech Magazine is running an article that hits home for all potential snowmobile buyers. Here are the basics of the article, with Yamaha-specific data plugged in:

With fuel prices higher than ever, consumers simply can’t afford not to buy a new Yamaha Four-Stroke sled. In fact, if you do the math, you may be able to purchase a Yamaha Four-Stroke snowmobile with the savings alone! Here’s how it works:

IF:
• Gas = $2.50/gallon
• Miles ridden per Season = 3,000
• Yamaha Genesis 120 engine average MPG...18 and 20 mpg.*
• Late 90’s two-stroke snowmobile MPG...8 mpg.**

Calculate fuel and oil savings if riding a four-stroke over a five-year period:
• Ride 3000 miles per year for five years ... 15,000 miles.
• 8 mpg, two-stroke will consume ... 1,875 gallons of fuel.
• 20 mpg, new, efficient Four Stroke will use ... 750 gallons.
- Five-year fuel costs @ $2.50 per gallon x 1125 gallons ... savings of $2,812.50
- 2-stroke oil costs at 75 mpq at $7.50 per quart x 200 quarts** ... savings of $1,500!
• New, four-stroke snowmobile savings ... $4,312.50!

Sale or Trade-in Value of old two-stroke sled:
• Sell or trade in your old sled ... $3,500
• Add fuel and oil savings ... $4,312.50,
• You have a $7,812.50 saving reward!
- A new 2006 RS Vector lists for $7,999, making the total cost for the sled $186.50.

Let’s review…
Fuel Savings: $2,812.50
Oil savings: $1,500.00
$ for selling old sled: $3,500.00

Sub-total $7,812.50
RS Vector list price: $7,999
Out of pocket $186.50

Now that’s a rationalization that makes cents sense.

* Data from Totallyamaha.com’s owner survey
** Data from Snow Tech Magazine, Oct, 2005 issue




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[big_ry_ry]

dont forget

Only one calculation you forgot was the oil changes, every 2000 miles or 3200 km you need an oil change or every season. So at 3000 miles a year that would be 2 oil changes per season, three when you first buy the machine (500 miles)

My dealer charges $70.00 parts/labor

Year 1 $210.00 (three oil changes) 500 miles, 2000 miles, once before you ride the next season

Year 2- (Starting at 3000 miles) $140.00 (two changes) 5000 miles and before you ride next season

Year 3- strarting at 6000 miles $140.00 8000 miles, before next season

Year 4- starting at 9000 miles $140.00 11000 miles, before next season

Year 5- Starting at 12000 miles $140.00 14000 miles, before next season

add that up, that is $770.00 you forgot to calculate based on my dealer cost..Doing it yourself will save but i would rather have my dealer do it.

I would not let the oil sit all summer and then run it untill it needs an oil change.

 

[LazyBastard]

You can't say $70 for an oil change.

$10 filter, $10 oil. Thats $20 for an oil change.
If you let your dealer do it, it doesn't count because its UNNECESSARY.

 

[STORM-CHASER]

First I would not pay 70.00 for a oil change.Its bad enough I have to pay twice what the oil and filter are worth.
second you only need a oil filter at the first 500 miles and then its every 12,000 miles.
Third what's the deferent's if the oil sits in the engine in summer or sits in the plastic jug its still a year old when you use it.I would think you could do the oil change at the end of the season . then be good to go untill next year.

 

[twomorestrokes]

Interesting thread. I always used to try to calculate weekend fuel savings based on odometer readings. it is impressive!

 

[LazyBastard]

Storm-chaser: You want to change the oil at the END of the season in order to get the CRAP out of the engine, also, since its coming apart anyways, might as well change the filter - its always better to change the filter. Get more CRAP out of the engine.

 

[impalapower]

you only need a oil filter at the first 500 miles and then its every 12,000 miles.

There isn't a filter out there that will last that long. You'd be foolish not to change that filter more often.

 

[STORM-CHASER]

Storm-chaser: You want to change the oil at the END of the season in order to get the CRAP out of the engine, also, since its coming apart anyways, might as well change the filter - its always better to change the filter. Get more CRAP out of the engine.

Yes but after you do it in the spring you shoud be good to go in the fall wright?

 

[twomorestrokes]

My plan is changing the oil and filter at the end of every season to get rid of the deposits and debris. My feeling is that the oil should be just fine at the beginning of the next sled season. My sled is not started at all during the summer. Feel free to disagree or offer more insight.

 

[gnip134]

Umm.....changing the oil on a Vector or Rage is very simple. Why would you ever pay 70.00 for one?

 

[STORM-CHASER]

any idea were you can get a good deal on the Yamaha oil. I was told at shows but at the big east no one had it . port Yamaha told me they never bring it to shows.

 

[twomorestrokes]

Umm.....changing the oil on a Vector or Rage is very simple. Why would you ever pay 70.00 for one?

I agree. However, it still cost me 55.00 for just the materials at Full Throttle's parts department for the oil, a filter and a tube of low temp grease. Crazy. Hopefully my own dealer will give be a better break this season.

 

[az99]

This might be a great way to sell it to your wife,but really. If a guy rides a 2 stroke in a style that only gets 8MPG , he is sure not going to get anywhere close to 20MPG with a 4 Stroke unless his wife starts riding with him.

 

[twomorestrokes]

This might be a great way to sell it to your wife,but really. If a guy rides a 2 stroke in a style that only gets 8MPG , he is sure not going to get anywhere close to 20MPG with a 4 Stroke unless his wife starts riding with him.

Actually, I sent this thread to my wife yesterday because I thought it was interesting and probably true.

My 600 SX got 8 mpg consistantly on guy's weekend. They all laughed because at every stop I took more fuel than even my buddy's 800 ZRT. Now I average 20-21 mpg. I've gotten as low as 18, and as high as 22 mpg.

 

[big_ry_ry]

oil

Umm.....changing the oil on a Vector or Rage is very simple. Why would you ever pay 70.00 for one?

I never said it was a vector or a rage , prob. the same thing.. also when you live near nothing people tend to charge a little more, and it is not worth the drive to go to another place. And for the most part, the time i have off from work i do not want to spend time on changing the oil. Money is not the key factor for me, but i bet i am not the only person who takes their sled somewhere to have work done, Regardless if it is necessary or not it would have to be calculated in, also if you did it yourself you still need to add that cost in, that is what i am saying. Regardless of how much i am willing to pay to have some one else do the work.