renegademan17
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Time to change my skis and currently running Slydog Powderhounds with shaper 6" carbides. These skis dart like there's no tomorrow, instead of going back to stock (heavier) skis and dual runner carbides. I see that Kimpex Arrow skis and the new Yamaha Dual runner's are very similiar, any advantages over the other?
2nd note I still have my old "original Pilots and was wondering, do I need a new mount and rubber block for skis to fit my Attak or can they just be put in with Yamaha rubber mount?
Thanks for the input!
2nd note I still have my old "original Pilots and was wondering, do I need a new mount and rubber block for skis to fit my Attak or can they just be put in with Yamaha rubber mount?
Thanks for the input!
renegademan17
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Is there anybody in there???
207nytro
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There most likely will be noone with any seat time on the new yamaha dual runner skis. Just fyi.
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My slydogs darted like crazy, it was scary, untill I took the time to get it set up.
I would try making sure the toe is set out correctly along with shimming the ski rubbers if needed. This made a world of a difference. My phazer now rides with a whole new level of confidence.
I would try making sure the toe is set out correctly along with shimming the ski rubbers if needed. This made a world of a difference. My phazer now rides with a whole new level of confidence.
Apex_GT
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I'd stick with the pilots..if I remember correctly they just bolted on..had to be forced on though
I have had had arrows since they first come out, now two sets. just ordered the yamaha version of arrows to try. There is zero darting or hard stearing with arrow skis with bias set correctly. From pictures only, the yamaha arrows look to maybe have a little longer keel.
I also have run powder hounds and used dartless plates on them shimmed with front bias. They handled great, not darting, easy stearing but they were so wide, they didn't let the keel penetrate to bite very good on deeper busted up snow. We use them now on a friends sled with no dartless plates and they work good with rear bias. Slight darting as there is with all single carbide skis I have tried. very manageable though. I wonder if your bias is not set correctly or your not setting toe correctly.
With Arrow skis, you can set toe to about anything as long as its not toe in and they will handle good with a little rear bias. On a good tight front end, you can run them amost zero toe and zero bias.
my only real complaint with the arrows is they are stock footprint. I would love for them to make a wider stepped upper plate like yamahas mountain ski and the slp power pro to give some off trail floation and less push in the busted fluff.
one nice thing with these skis is you can adjust your suspension to handle and ride good with no regaurd to ski pressure causing hard stearing or darting.
The nice thing about the yamaha version is the price for sure, I think they were 69 per ski and about the same for carbides. couple hundred bucks for new skis and carbides is half what arrows are.
I also have run powder hounds and used dartless plates on them shimmed with front bias. They handled great, not darting, easy stearing but they were so wide, they didn't let the keel penetrate to bite very good on deeper busted up snow. We use them now on a friends sled with no dartless plates and they work good with rear bias. Slight darting as there is with all single carbide skis I have tried. very manageable though. I wonder if your bias is not set correctly or your not setting toe correctly.
With Arrow skis, you can set toe to about anything as long as its not toe in and they will handle good with a little rear bias. On a good tight front end, you can run them amost zero toe and zero bias.
my only real complaint with the arrows is they are stock footprint. I would love for them to make a wider stepped upper plate like yamahas mountain ski and the slp power pro to give some off trail floation and less push in the busted fluff.
one nice thing with these skis is you can adjust your suspension to handle and ride good with no regaurd to ski pressure causing hard stearing or darting.
The nice thing about the yamaha version is the price for sure, I think they were 69 per ski and about the same for carbides. couple hundred bucks for new skis and carbides is half what arrows are.
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