Yamaha snocross team

[RJH]

 

[ViperTurboPete]

AS LONG AS "BUNNY" SHOWS UP ONCE IN A WHILE!!!!!!!

and her SISTER!

 

[welterracer]

After reading all of this stuff.. i have come to one conclusion..

If robbie wouldnt have left yamaha and gone to ski-doo , yamaha would be winning or at least competing better at the races..

Robbie had the 4 stroke figured out, but yamaha wouldnt spend the money to keep him.. Thats probobly why he isnt doing that great on the XP.. he is use to the heavy fourstroke.. LOL

 

[NytroSx]

Thats probobly why he isnt doing that great on the XP.. he is use to the heavy fourstroke.. LOL

LOL! Interesting perspective!

I do know Robbie and his team were not a good fit for Yamaha. The only reason he won that one race was because his team didn't get chance to mess with the settings on that sled!

Why can’t anybody beat Bubba in MX – the crew

While he has a great crew, Bubba wins because he flat out smokes!

 

[gormleyflyer2002]

Are you saying this is the first time you have ever heard of a company testing R&D by use of racing?

No, I'm simply saying that they aren't in it only for R&D.

You asked if I thought Toyota got into Nascar for better R&D and I responded yes and gave you proof of it. Are you implying that you also think that R&D is one of the reasons they got into it? If so, thats not what I take out of your original question "Do you think Toyota got into Nascar for better R&D". Especially considering you think my other posts are off base.

Sorry, maybe I misinterpreted your question.

R&D is probably the last reason Toyota got into CUP racing......The Toyota F1 car has more tech in the steering wheel than the whole Nascar garage in NC. But yes, the Japanese do nothing by accident or to be seen just to fail.

 

[Mikey]

I agree totally with RJH its the team. Toyota has by far the largest budget in Formula 1 racing and they are consistently at the back of the grid. Why? THE TEAM....

 

[BlueByYou2000]

Are you saying this is the first time you have ever heard of a company testing R&D by use of racing?

No, I'm simply saying that they aren't in it only for R&D.

You asked if I thought Toyota got into Nascar for better R&D and I responded yes and gave you proof of it. Are you implying that you also think that R&D is one of the reasons they got into it? If so, thats not what I take out of your original question "Do you think Toyota got into Nascar for better R&D". Especially considering you think my other posts are off base.

Sorry, maybe I misinterpreted your question.

R&D is probably the last reason Toyota got into CUP racing......The Toyota F1 car has more tech in the steering wheel than the whole Nascar garage in NC. But yes, the Japanese do nothing by accident or to be seen just to fail.

The point was the R&D was a factor, one of several

R&D
Exposure
To Win
Marketing

Toyota Racing Development- TRD. "Development" is right in the title of the racing program. Learn more at http://www.trdusa.com/

 

[BlueByYou2000]

I think it will be very interesting to see how Joe Gibbs racing does in cup this year. Toyota is very serious about racing and definetely wants to win. With drivers like Tony Stewart, Kyle Busch, and Denny Hamlin, Toyotas chances of winning just improved dramatically.

 

[sg35]

I persoanlly think it is all marketing. if you take the toyota example further, they jumped into cup with a team that had good sponsorship but average at best drivers, (Waltrip, Reutimann, Jarrett), Jarret had the cup championships and the provisionals to help them out if performance suffered, but he was nearing the end of his career. i think toyota used them to "work the bugs out" but still had big name draw with loyal DJ fans. That year, while terribly inconsistent, i can't imagine the amount of knowledge they gained in set-ups etc, between waltrip, blaney,red bull etc. yamaha in my eyes did the same, put malinoski on the sled (big name), give some credibility to the program, but use good but maybe not top notch riders to learn with, they ain't paying these guys what they would pay Morgan,Tucker etc., but they are learning what the sled needs and wants to make it perform. i am sure Malinoski had a big price tag, but they may have figured that one year was worth it. if they had jumped in with both feet (stock, semi pro etc,). i bet everyone would say the same stuff, look at how embarrasing it is to watch them all they do is get killed in every section. when the 4 strokes came to MX there was a learning curve there as well, now with the exception of some local and regiional races you can't find riders on a stroke, but it took time. now the supercross tracks are almost too small for the power of the bikes that are being raced. my very long winded point is, it will take time to learn the sled, and what it needs.

 

[john_the_fisherman]

After reading all of this stuff.. i have come to one conclusion..

If robbie wouldnt have left yamaha and gone to ski-doo , yamaha would be winning or at least competing better at the races..

Robbie had the 4 stroke figured out, but yamaha wouldnt spend the money to keep him.. Thats probobly why he isnt doing that great on the XP.. he is use to the heavy fourstroke.. LOL

This is just simply untrue. Robbie left Yamaha in the middle of his contract because he and Boss racing were not happy with the 4-stroke. Yamaha could have held him to his contract, but chose to avoid the PR nightmare. Robbie did a crappy thing to Yamaha and I think fate is making him pay this year with mediocre results. To say Robbie had the 4-stroke figured out is a bit odd as well. He only won one race on essentially a one-line track after Ross Martin was brake checked in a corner and then no one could get around Robbie.

My prediction is Yamaha will never be competitive against two strokes with that sled. That is not something I'm happy about, but it's reality. There is at least a 50 lb difference and very few ways to cut it. The current sled is already running more carbon fiber and titanium pieces than any of us could afford, a different tunnel, plus an oil can and cooling system half the size of the consumer sled.

 

[NytroSx]

Yamaha decided to race snocross before they even knew if the sled would be competitive. After learning the sled was too heavy and could not be competitive, it was too late to turn back.

 

[SledFreak]

Dude, with 17 post and all about how heavy you think the Yamaha sno-x sleds are with no pure evidence to back up your claims... Do you really think Yamaha did not know it was going to be a challenge? All I think you are is a troll trying to stirr the pot.

 

[LJ 452]

The minute Robbie stepped off the sled and Steve or Corey jumped on the sled lost 50-100 pounds. He's a big S.O.B.. If there wasn't a minimum weight, I could see the weight arguement. Yamaha could easily get this sled to 450 pounds. They could probably go 400 if they really wanted to. Granted the sled would never be affordable in it's reduced fat version, but who cares. It's not like I would want to buy the open mod race version anyay. I think Robbie did the one thing he set out to do, that's win the first Sno-Cross on a four stroke. Can't take that away from him. I think he may have seen a struggle for the future and figured he'd get out since he already did what he was going to do.

 

[cappy13]

I met Team Boss and actually got to know them a little bit - enough to realize that they are great people and they want to win . Yamaha funds them for R&D but Yamaha also does there own across the world so when you here a huge number please realize that .

As for Yugi being a bad driver he did win Japans snocross championship last year and here he has had a couple low spots but lets be real - at your job are you #1 every day? Im not trying to start any bitchfest (lol 50 lbs) but IMHO all drivers have low spots and high spots - whos hot today will be cold tomorrow - and its freezing here in northern minnesota!

I back Yamaha because they are doing what nobody thinks they can do and I ride there products because they are what I like - not because some kid half my size won a few races on a sled I cant even buy .

I didnt buy my pickup based on Nascar wins either lol

 

[sg35]

i certainly can't speak for anyone else, but if i bought my stuff based soley on who won and what they drove, then a studebaker pro mod would be my daily driver and John force's funny car would be my sport utility vehicle, with "grave Digger" pulling the sleds.