ZX2 Suspension

[SnoWarrior]

Ok, there seems to be lots of questions on the new skid.

First to answer kinger, no when I hop up and down the skid is not too stiff. I don't have my track completely adjusted yet. I am waiting for some colder temps. Right now it has about 1" sag at 42 degrees temp.

I found it is much easier to adjust both the shock preload, and the revolver with the weight off the skid.

I have the revolver set to factory, 2 and 4. I set shock preload to 0 and measured the back bumper. It was 23" with no weight, and with me sitting on the sled (bouncing up and down a few times) it went to 20". I weigh 215lbs.
I set shocks to 3 and did same, dropped 2-1/2", so did make a difference.

When I sit or "hop" on the sled I get a smooth movement of the skid. The skid travels about 4-5" when I "hop up and down" on the sled.

I have my Son's Warrior sitting next to mine on the trailer and his suspension moves about the same amount with me hopping on it, but feels mushy on downward movement, and rebounds much faster.
Does not feel nearly as smooth as the ZX2. The back of my sled sits a bit higher than stock suspension.

I guess this will be a good place to try and get some answers and see how the skid will perform. I am going to leave my setup the way it is until I can give it a beating on the trails.

 

[kinger]

AWESOME THANK YOU!!!!!

 

[Jeff\ADBoivin]

Snow Warrior,

The Zx-2 will feel stiffer in static because the way the suspension is design.
When you sit on a ZX-2, you want to have around 0 to 2 inch of sag max.
This is just like the Expert X. You want to keep as much travel as you can for the bump, not for the show room !

It will feel stiffer to if you are in you garage at 65F. the track tension will be tigh. if you go outside at 15F, then everything get to the sweet spot and it will feel much better.

don't try to jump or collasp the suspension with the rear swing arm, it won't work. everything work together, not just with one part of the puzzle.
even for clearance, if you remove the shock and just mount the suspension. you may think you have a clearance problem but in reality you don't.
The Geometry of the ZX-2 work all together, if your missing one part of it, it will look or feel funny.

if you have any questions, just ask, i will answer as quick as possible.

 

[kinger]

At the risk of being wrong I will say that the rotator adjustment plate is connected to a offset shaft and the rear arm actually travles along the circumfrence of a circle if you will and nto just hinged and fixed at a certain point. To me it makes sense that the front of the skid actually has to move up lets say on to an aproaching bump to get the rear arm to travel up along the outer edge of the circle. Make sense?

Its crystal clear in MY head LOL

 

[Grimm]

Thanks for clarifying things Jeff, especially with regards to trying to collapse the rear arm (I was jumping up and down on it and could only move it a few inches, me 260 lbs).

Also, good to hear what the sag should be. You might want to consider adding this in the settings section of the instructions in the future to alleviate concerns.

Again thanks, I was becoming concerned myself.

 

[yammiman]

Looks good!! - would look sweet with some Billet wheels!!

Anyone know the axle diameter of the rear wheels??

 

[Jigger]

I think they are 8 inch wheels

 

[Tom-RX1]

yup they are 8 in. wheels .
Tom-RX1

 

[kinger]

I think he meant axle diameter of the wheels to replace them with some bling!

 

[Grimm]

Me thinks they are 3/4 inch. A 6004 bearing fits the shaft.

 

[yammiman]

...think he meant axle diameter of the wheels to replace them with some bling!...

That is what I was looking for.....

.....Me thinks they are 3/4 inch. A 6004 bearing fits the shaft....

All of the Billet wheels are in mm - I don't have my converter on me, what is 3/4" in mm??

 

[Tom-RX1]

19-20 mm
Tom-RX1

 

[06vectorgt]

Snow Warrior,

The Zx-2 will feel stiffer in static because the way the suspension is design.
When you sit on a ZX-2, you want to have around 0 to 2 inch of sag max.
This is just like the Expert X. You want to keep as much travel as you can for the bump, not for the show room !

It will feel stiffer to if you are in you garage at 65F. the track tension will be tigh. if you go outside at 15F, then everything get to the sweet spot and it will feel much better.

don't try to jump or collasp the suspension with the rear swing arm, it won't work. everything work together, not just with one part of the puzzle.
even for clearance, if you remove the shock and just mount the suspension. you may think you have a clearance problem but in reality you don't.
The Geometry of the ZX-2 work all together, if your missing one part of it, it will look or feel funny.

if you have any questions, just ask, i will answer as quick as possible.

Jeff,
Please bare with me.
Just got my sled back from Excell Motor Sports with ZX2 installed, As one of your dealers they have installed their fair share of Experts but were puzzled as to why this suspension took two men and a boy to get the suspension to collapse.
You are saying by design and temperature that this is to be expected?
I was also expecting something completely different - Bring on the snow!

 

[DITCHBANGER]

does plastic actually expand that much more than steel and aluminum?

 

[kinger]

06 vector to test my theory try putting a 2-4" tall board under the front arm of the suspension(under the track of course) then see if it collapses much easier. Report back please