2005 Vector electrical gremlin

[whitexc]

Thanks Grizz. Hopefully I will update with good results in a few days.

 

[whitexc]

So after getting ridiculous prices on a regulator local I found a genuine Yamaha rectifier/regulator for $160 on Partzilla. It did the trick as far as blowing the fuse.....Runs fine so far. I ran out of coolant and it isn't 100% full so I shut it down after a few minutes.

Next issue....and still a lingering one from the get go....the tachometer and speedo still don't work. The high beam indicator is working. I checked all the fuses by the reverse linkage and found all to be ok with them. I did unplug the PITA dash plug and it's spotless and dry in there so I put that back together. Where do I go now? Any help is appreciated and thanks thus far.

 

[whitexc]

Is it possible that the dash cooked when the regulator went?

 

[Redbeard]

Is it possible that the dash cooked when the regulator went?

Unfortunately, I think that's a very good possibility.

 

[BigDogrx1]

Grizz I wish you where close to me for speedo issue.

 

[whitexc]

So it appears that one of the relays in the right footwell runs the display. I will tinker with them and see what happens.

This yammi seems like a nice sled but wtf.....this is getting old!

 

[4strokeluvr111]

Hey folks, been a member over on the TYforums for years but just joined here as we now have a four stroke in the family. The sled is a 2005 RS Vector, electric start and reverse. We believe the PO knew the stator was bad and brought the sled for us to see with a new battery so all seemed well. Long story short, it was not....battery died as it wasn't charging and the sled quit.

We just finished installing a new RM Stator, blue dot tensioner, copper exhaust donuts and going through everything else while the engine was out, along with a good cleaning. So we get it together, put oil and coolant in and fire it up no problem....purring like a kitten. My bro blipped the throttle the slightest bit to idle the sled down, it quit and is now blowing the 30 amp fuse on the hot side of the starter relay/solenoid by the battery.

I was thinking we did a great job tucking and routing the wiring but something isn't right somewhere. I did a bunch of reading and there is talk of grounding blocks in the wiring harness? I don't think this is our issue but I would like to check them. I also see guys refer to wiring behind the primary clutch....this sled, unless it was completely re-routed by a PO, has no wiring on the clutch side. All wiring comes down the chaincase side of the machine. Without tearing it all apart and checking every plug etc., what should I look at? I would rather pull the engine and tranny from my truck than deal with electrical crap...hate it. Thanks for the help guys/gals.

"This yammi seems like a nice sled but wtf.....this is getting old!"

I'm replying to your initial post then adding your last post.

Look at what you started with and the process you took to do the repairs. IMO....do not blame this "yammi" sled for its and your woes. You have only yourself to blame....blunt comment by me maybe but it is what it is.

All of the new and newer sleds are complicated in one way or another. By attempting the repairs yourself on a sled that you were not familiar with, especially electrical repairs, is asking for trouble.

I have watched this board since 2005 and people have come and go. Some do the repairs themselves and some let a repair shop do it. Most times the DIY'ers have been successful, sometimes not. Most everybody complains about what a dealer/shop will charge, but the job most times gets done correctly and the rider is on their way back on the trails.

Consider it a lesson learned? Off the pulpit now.....

 

[whitexc]

You need to be off of your pulpit.....thanks for the quality input towards a resolution.

So.....after speaking with two local dealerships about the original not charging issue and knowing guys that work on the machines daily, yes we decided to go after this ourselves. Both opinions, yes opinions, were that the stator was very likely the issue. I got a quote of "right around $900". This price, just in conversation, was to pull the engine and replace the stator if that were indeed the issue and reassemble. No exhaust donuts, no updated cam chain tensioner, etc. so with that some testing took place and we dove in.

My apologies for joining a forum where there are MOSTLY kind and helpful individuals that are willing to lend a hand. Look at Grizz who lives at least an hour or two away. He offered to help out if necessary and it is greatly appreciated.

I am far from a brand basher and take offense to those that do that petty crap. I own one of each brand and happen to realize that all makes have issues.

That's my take. Good day.

 

[4strokeluvr111]

You need to be off of your pulpit.....thanks for the quality input towards a resolution.

So.....after speaking with two local dealerships about the original not charging issue and knowing guys that work on the machines daily, yes we decided to go after this ourselves. Both opinions, yes opinions, were that the stator was very likely the issue. I got a quote of "right around $900". This price, just in conversation, was to pull the engine and replace the stator if that were indeed the issue and reassemble. No exhaust donuts, no updated cam chain tensioner, etc. so with that some testing took place and we dove in.

My apologies for joining a forum where there are MOSTLY kind and helpful individuals that are willing to lend a hand. Look at Grizz who lives at least an hour or two away. He offered to help out if necessary and it is greatly appreciated.

I am far from a brand basher and take offense to those that do that petty crap. I own one of each brand and happen to realize that all makes have issues.

That's my take. Good day.

OK...after 12 posts vs. 1000+.....if you say so. Let us know how your tinkering goes OK? Then come back and say "Yammi...WTF?"

 

[whitexc]

Will do, boss.

 

[4strokeluvr111]

Will do, boss.

Glad we got that straight. .....now be careful!

I admit I got a bit testicle'ish at what I perceived as a dig at Yamaha's.

 

[whitexc]

^^^I too will say that how my Yammi WTF comment came across did not portray what I was actually trying to say. What I really meant was the sled is nice with only 3k miles (supposedly) and I wouldn't expect this many problems. Again, I have and wrench on all kinds of sleds and they all have issues. Truce.

 

[whitexc]

So, after poking around a bit more, I decided to check the fuses near the brake rotor again. Sure enough, the 10amp SIG fuse had an issue. It seemed like it wasn't getting a good connection, like it was loose on one side. I took a pick to the one side and got the fuse snugged up now and what the heck, the gauge pod lit right up with a speedo reading and the tach even works. I installed new hyfax, greased the skid and this thing is outta the garage. A lot of reading, some grey hair and maybe a few beers and she is alive and well. Thanks for the help folks.

 

[whitexc]

So for those that will reference this thread for help in diagnosing their own issue here goes:
I truly believe the rectifier/regulator was our primary problem. With the sled being new to us and there being a great deal of unknown we decided to go all in and replace the stator along with the updated cam chain tensioner and exhaust donuts from the get go. Reason being was the the oem stator did not ohm out with good results. Upon completion of this we found the regulator to be shorted internally (at east it seems....there really isn't much testing that can be done). This led to the sled running and appeared to be charging but we had a gauge pod issue that ended up being nothing more than a connection issue. As a side note, this sled like most, has a decent amount of wiring and many areas of concern when it comes to routing and chafing. Be sure you take the time to secure wiring and if there is even the chance of something being rubbed, cut a piece of hose or somehow reinforce that spot so it doesn't leave you stranded. These things tend to happen on the trail, not in the shop.