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My dealer says he wants the Phazer motor.... (now I know this isn't politically correct)....in a white man's chassis. More or less in a sit down type of machine. He claims that he loses alot of sales to a brand X dealer down the road because people would buy a 500 type regular sled for family use but they look at the current Phazer and go.....NO WAY.
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cannondale27 said:With direct injection why cant a wet sump 2 stroke be made?Would be best of both worlds if so.
Sure hope they dont get rid of Phazer unless a better one is made.Where in the Blog did you see reference to this?
CR, on the blog, mentioned in a reply a while back that the phazer motor in a vector chassis might be worth pursuing. I think its a done deal. As for getting rid of the current phazer, no mention was made. But it would make sense if a higher, horsepower FX variant (100hp range) is in the works.
ArcticChat has some strong rumors on a wet sump 2-stroke. Not sure how it would work but its interesting none the less.
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Would a wet sump 2 stroke have a pressurized oiling system like a four stroke and does it still burn oil? And how does the air get past the oil the crankcase? Sounds weird...
Yes it has a pressurized oil system like a 4 stroke. The air is pumped by a gear driven supercharger instead of using the crankcase. This is how 2 stroke diesel engines work.
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Seems like this might also eliminate ports in the cylinder walls. Sounds like the best of both worlds. Light ,efficient, powerful and possibly the reliability of a 4-stroke.
Intake is through cylinder ports with exhaust through cylinder head valves.
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I would love the phaser motor in a vector chassis. I can't find anything to put my kids on that isn't ten years old. I thought I was going to get a phaser until I rode one and quickly realized she'd be thrown off it before we got out of the parking lot. That's why there is a ten year old SXR in the trailer. My dealer says he is going to carry a new brand of sled that is about a 3/4 size sled with a 300 cc 4 stroke with electric start and reverse and top speed around 40. Supposed to be around 4200 new. I can't remember the brand and I'm sure someone will come up with it but I'm going to take a serious look at it soon if yamaha doesn't fill the gap.
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4x4 said:Intake is through cylinder ports with exhaust through cylinder head valves.
But why bother with 2 strokes if you still need head valves..? Than you need head cam, chain, etc. Would it really be any lighter then a 4-stroke??
I dunno. Putting a 80hp engine in the Vector chasis would be a mistake to me. Good motor. Good chasis for higher hp applications. Not a good sounding combination. Am I alone thinking a 80hp Vector would be nutless?
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vector06 said:Am I alone thinking a 80hp Vector would be nutless?
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Doesn't make sense to me!!
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jaydaniels said:Seems like this might also eliminate ports in the cylinder walls. Sounds like the best of both worlds. Light ,efficient, powerful and possibly the reliability of a 4-stroke.
The 2 stroke diesels I worked with in the past have ports in the walls so that a blower can blow the exhaust out of the chambre. Crappy, dirty and loud setup that I believe is no longer being made.
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i'm with you,everybody wants a 100hp phazer,so who is gonna buy a 80 hp vector,doesnt make sense to me,power to weight would suffer even more with this combovector06 said:I dunno. Putting a 80hp engine in the Vector chasis would be a mistake to me. Good motor. Good chasis for higher hp applications. Not a good sounding combination. Am I alone thinking a 80hp Vector would be nutless?
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vector06 said:I dunno. Putting a 80hp engine in the Vector chasis would be a mistake to me. Good motor. Good chasis for higher hp applications. Not a good sounding combination. Am I alone thinking a 80hp Vector would be nutless?
Because Yamaha is reacting to DOO's 4 stroke 60hp ACE sled in a XP chassis.
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100 HP Vector would make since though!!!
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It seems that this year the OEMs are keeping a little quieter than in years before, no teaser pics, videos, etc. Me thinks there won't be anything really special/innovative this year.
Either that, or they want to clear out last year's stock of sleds.
Either that, or they want to clear out last year's stock of sleds.
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