Harvest1121
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But we ordered Yamaha’s went by what they said they over promised and way under delivered. My friend always rode Yamaha but has 3 2022 Polaris this year. With an 850 with 3k on it.
fourload
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I will be going through my wife’s new sled with a fine tooth comb checking everything. I personally think all manufacturers should be honest with us and cancel 23 snow checks. They will be never be able to build them on time. Also heard big price increase.Polaris, by far, has handled this season the worst.
There are still tons of snowcheck sleds owed to customers. The ones that have been delivered are riddled with issues. I know a guy that buys a new Assault every season. He typically puts on 4,000 miles a season.
His 2022 has had to have the throttle recall, coolant hose replaced due to rubbing on the starter bracket, center shock bolt fell out while riding, and yesterday at 1,330 miles the 850 engine blew up.
It's a shame too. Those sleds are a blast to ride.
acpantera
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If the Manufacturers think they can over price machines to a gouging level, I think they will suffer low sales at a record level.
Inflation is at an all time high, something like 7%. If the raise prices more than 10% their pre-season orders will suffer. We Snowmobilers aren't the brightness bulbs in the box, but our pockets are only so deep.
Inflation is at an all time high, something like 7%. If the raise prices more than 10% their pre-season orders will suffer. We Snowmobilers aren't the brightness bulbs in the box, but our pockets are only so deep.
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All manufacturers promised their snowcheck sleds would be in on time and all 4 are dealing with the supply chain issues across the board. Can't imagine the frustrations the manufactures are dealing with when they can't receive necessary parts needed to finish a build in order to deliver for their customers. I feel for those that are still waiting to receive your sleds as we only have so much time to ride. It's the time we live in unfortunately across everything. Heck, I am building a house and builder told me front doors are 12 months out! Our local Ski-doo dealer just told us they are still waiting on 26 sleds yet for their customers and they have no idea when they will receive them. Just crazy times.
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I believe that to be the case, but I do not have actual knowledge. I ordered an LTX GT EPS, and I know from the video, they are at the end of the line; however, I recall seeing posts, either here or on Facebook, showing smiling people with their new LTX GT EPS sleds. I could be wrong.Are you saying that others who ordered the exact same model as you ,after you ordered yours, have received their sled ahead of you ?
The key here is exact same model , as each model has its own lineup , that is supposed to be in the order of the date they were purchased .
Don't get me wrong, I have been a huge supporter of Yamaha over the years, and if I could buy a Yamaha product as opposed to any other manufacturer, I did. My snowmobile/ATV trailers are covered with "Yamaha" stickers. I understand the manufacturing issues; Yamaha is in a bad spot. Not only are there supply chain issues, but Yamaha is not even manufacturing its own sleds, and has to deal with AC's issues. I am sure it is a nightmare for Yamaha. What I am saying is I feel abused by Yamaha's seeming indifference to their customers, and their failure to contact me and keep me up to date on my order. That has nothing to do with supply chain shortages, and has everything to do with Yamaha's lack of concern for customer relations. They sent me an email acknowledging my $500 deposit; how hard would it be to send me an email periodically updating me on the status of my order? Seriously, how hard is that?
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I started a thread about when you placed your order and when / if you got your sled to determine if what we were being told about first come first serve , was actually happening .I believe that to be the case, but I do not have actual knowledge. I ordered an LTX GT EPS, and I know from the video, they are at the end of the line; however, I recall seeing posts, either here or on Facebook, showing smiling people with their new LTX GT EPS sleds. I could be wrong.
Don't get me wrong, I have been a huge supporter of Yamaha over the years, and if I could buy a Yamaha product as opposed to any other manufacturer, I did. My snowmobile/ATV trailers are covered with "Yamaha" stickers. I understand the manufacturing issues; Yamaha is in a bad spot. Not only are there supply chain issues, but Yamaha is not even manufacturing its own sleds, and has to deal with AC's issues. I am sure it is a nightmare for Yamaha. What I am saying is I feel abused by Yamaha's seeming indifference to their customers, and their failure to contact me and keep me up to date on my order. That has nothing to do with supply chain shortages, and has everything to do with Yamaha's lack of concern for customer relations. They sent me an email acknowledging my $500 deposit; how hard would it be to send me an email periodically updating me on the status of my order? Seriously, how hard is that?
That to me is the only measurable information that means anything at this point , as we were told this was the way it was going to happen , and if it didn't happen this way ,then we have a legitimate beef .
There were 2 ways of dealing with this .
Either updating your customers of pending deliveries , or not .
I choose to update my customers , in my business , to help them plan their business as best as possible.
I was continuously updating of delay after delay , and all of my deliveries came in later than the original late date that was anticipated .
I was embarrassed by the continuous delays , but they were out of my hands as they were 99% freight delays as opposed to production delays , which made it even more frustrating . As bad as it was , and I had product that was originally scheduled for October 1st , that showed up this month !!! My customers were appreciative of my efforts to be transparent , but atleast at a certain point , customers could change their plans accordingly .Other companies that did little or NO updating , just pissed off their customers , even though the end results in both scenarios may have been the same , the uncertainty is the real problem .
This shortage / delay scenario in most sectors of business appears to not being going away , so they better learn to do a better job at communicating , going forward .
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Well said!I started a thread about when you placed your order and when / if you got your sled to determine if what we were being told about first come first serve , was actually happening .
That to me is the only measurable information that means anything at this point , as we were told this was the way it was going to happen , and if it didn't happen this way ,then we have a legitimate beef .
There were 2 ways of dealing with this .
Either updating your customers of pending deliveries , or not .
I choose to update my customers , in my business , to help them plan their business as best as possible.
I was continuously updating of delay after delay , and all of my deliveries came in later than the original late date that was anticipated .
I was embarrassed by the continuous delays , but they were out of my hands as they were 99% freight delays as opposed to production delays , which made it even more frustrating . As bad as it was , and I had product that was originally scheduled for October 1st , that showed up this month !!! My customers were appreciative of my efforts to be transparent , but atleast at a certain point , customers could change their plans accordingly .Other companies that did little or NO updating , just pissed off their customers , even though the end results in both scenarios may have been the same , the uncertainty is the real problem .
This shortage / delay scenario in most sectors of business appears to not being going away , so they better learn to do a better job at communicating , going forward .
As much as it was/is a PITA to keep your customers advised, by putting money down on your goods or services, they earned the right to your attention. I suspect that your efforts will pay off in the future with customers who trust and respect you. It probably doesn't matter to a corporation as large and diverse as Yamaha, but there will be an impact, however slight it may be, on their future power sports sales as a result of how they have handled this.
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Like I said, I hope mine doesn't come in until April at this point. I want to see what coming out and new pricing.
Maybe I will order the S-TX this time and keep the ZR8000 for my around town sled.
Also, there are rumors of the return of the Pantera with the 998T, maybe I will order that instead!!! Super Cruiser!!!!
Maybe I will order the S-TX this time and keep the ZR8000 for my around town sled.
Also, there are rumors of the return of the Pantera with the 998T, maybe I will order that instead!!! Super Cruiser!!!!
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To me, if their 2023 lineup is anything more than BNG and if they do not offer customers who have not yet received their 2022 orders a chance to change with a financial incentive too keep them “reasonably” whole with the 2022 models and a prioritized delivery then they are making a huge mistake
Bigblue1
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My buddy just got his Indy XCR but with no O2 sensors. Its hitting everyone.
number1kyster
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We picked up a mint EPS Vector for my wife this season. We swap every so often. Every time she rides my tuned Winder she says, "This would be the perfect sled with power steering."Like I said, I hope mine doesn't come in until April at this point. I want to see what coming out and new pricing.
Maybe I will order the S-TX this time and keep the ZR8000 for my around town sled.
Also, there are rumors of the return of the Pantera with the 998T, maybe I will order that instead!!! Super Cruiser!!!!
I tend to agree.
Sidewinderxtx
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We ordered 2 yamaha on March 10, 2021 we were supposed to get ours before year end when was a Sidewinderxtx Le and the other was a viper LTXGT the LTXGT is still not here we still don’t have a date so I’m going to say the first come first serve is BS I’ve been Yamaha all my life I love my Yamaha luckily my sidewinder runs really well my girlfriends viper is still in the crate somewhere We are looking forward to getting a call to let us know it’s on its way hopefully it’s not stuck behind all those truckersI started a thread about when you placed your order and when / if you got your sled to determine if what we were being told about first come first serve , was actually happening .
That to me is the only measurable information that means anything at this point , as we were told this was the way it was going to happen , and if it didn't happen this way ,then we have a legitimate beef .
There were 2 ways of dealing with this .
Either updating your customers of pending deliveries , or not .
I choose to update my customers , in my business , to help them plan their business as best as possible.
I was continuously updating of delay after delay , and all of my deliveries came in later than the original late date that was anticipated .
I was embarrassed by the continuous delays , but they were out of my hands as they were 99% freight delays as opposed to production delays , which made it even more frustrating . As bad as it was , and I had product that was originally scheduled for October 1st , that showed up this month !!! My customers were appreciative of my efforts to be transparent , but atleast at a certain point , customers could change their plans accordingly .Other companies that did little or NO updating , just pissed off their customers , even though the end results in both scenarios may have been the same , the uncertainty is the real problem .
This shortage / delay scenario in most sectors of business appears to not being going away , so they better learn to do a better job at communicating , going forward .
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Finally Yamaha Canada fesses up to my dealer for my LTX GT. April. Southern Ontario
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Welcome to the April club I hope they still keep the special financing on them. At least it will look good next to my boat.
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LolWelcome to the April club I hope they still keep the special financing on them. At least it will look good next to my boat.
I'll take a picture of it with he tulips. Just in time.
With Apr delivery there are certainly some options to see what other spring sleds and offers there may be. But last year's price still looks good
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