A arm bushings shot/replaced/still shot

[GT man]

My buddies Gt has 2000 miles on it and the A-arm upper and lower bushings were toast. The dealer replaced them under warrenty and when we lifted the sled up on a jack there is still tons of slop in both upper and lower arms. the upper is however considerably worse. What gives. Bruce Schrader has a bushing kit that he sells. Can anyone tell me if his tollerances are closer and if it will tighten this thing up.

 

[xcsp]

A-arm bushings

On my Apex, when it had ZERO miles on it had some "play" in the upper left a-arm, right side had very little if any.

Questioned the dealer and to others on this sight and all replied as being normal-I agree. (Would rather have both sides equal and minimal play)

After 1400 miles, there is no noticeable change.

The bulkhead is cast, so there is or can be some slight variation between the left & right sides.

 

[STORM-CHASER]

My buddies Gt has 2000 miles on it and the A-arm upper and lower bushings were toast. The dealer replaced them under warrenty and when we lifted the sled up on a jack there is still tons of slop in both upper and lower arms. the upper is however considerably worse. What gives. Bruce Schrader has a bushing kit that he sells. Can anyone tell me if his tollerances are closer and if it will tighten this thing up.

One thing to check if the bushings wear to far then the bulk head will wear, I have not had these problem on a apex, But had seen it on my old rx-1 with 1700 miles the bulk head was junk, Now I got a vector ( witch has the same front end as the apex ,so of course I was watching the front end, 1000 miles and all bushing are junk, I was going to use bruce's bushings ,But Yamaha replaced them all , But after these were I will go with the nylotron bushings. I have heard good things about the nylotron.

 

[yamadog1]

bushings

my 04 warrior new was sloppy got bad at 1600 miles changed to nylatron
bushings and they are snug on both sides,uppers are aluminum they were
worn the most.

 

[welterracer]

I had 2 Rx warriors.. BOth had extreme amounts of movement in the upper control arms.. EVEN NEW.. It is completely normal..

Do i think its right? NO.. but it is what it is..

 

[X-APE]

Maybe this is why some dart far more than others? In any event, this is totally unacceptable.

 

[STORM-CHASER]

Maybe this is why some dart far more than others? In any event, this is totally unacceptable.

I had not thought of it causeing darting, But I had more darting late in the year, Now that I think about it it make's sence

 

[1CrazySledder]

Where do I get these upgraded bushings? I'll replace mine when I get my front end back.
Is there a aftermarket bushing set for both the rear and front of these new Apex's?

Vince

 

[Oak Hill]

This is normal play. Check out a new one. This play will not hurt anything. Just ride the sled and stop worrying about it. I have 4000 miles on mine and still has the same play as when new.

 

[xc8j]

This is normal play. Check out a new one. This play will not hurt anything. Just ride the sled and stop worrying about it. I have 4000 miles on mine and still has the same play as when new.

Oak Hill is right,my 04 was loose when it was brand new!Jay

 

[Smokey]

Where can we get the nylatron bushings ??????

 

[STORM-CHASER]

Where can we get the nylatron bushings ??????

http://www.pioneerperformance.net/ not sure if there on the web if not call

 

[Len Todd]

Pioneer's kit did not include the bushings in the bulkhead, which also need to be changed to keep things tight and preclude wear beyond the bushing into the bulkhead. That kit also does not include the plastic washers/seals that may be needed. It's kind of a partial kit. By the time I got done running back and forth to the dealer and waiting for the parts not included, the entire Pioneer kit wound up still sitting on my shelf???

On my 04 RX, even after all the bushings and plastic washers/seals were changed, with no wear in the bulkhead or on the bolts, the A-Arms still had axial travel along the bolts. Mag side was twice as bad as the PTO side. I cut the ridge off one of the old plastic washers/seals and slide it in there next to the new plastic washer. This took out almost all of the A-Arm's endplay. You may have to thin the washer a bit, by sanding it, to allow a few mils of axial endplay. On my sled, both sides now have very little play.

 

[mnf7sp]

My GT did not have the steel bushings around the bolt top and bottom on the spindle end on the right side! Talk about slop -just the plastic bushing and a bolt.

 

[STORM-CHASER]

Pioneer's kit did not include the bushings in the bulkhead, which also need to be changed to keep things tight and preclude wear beyond the bushing into the bulkhead. That kit also does not include the plastic washers/seals that may be needed. It's kind of a partial kit. By the time I got done running back and forth to the dealer and waiting for the parts not included, the entire Pioneer kit wound up still sitting on my shelf???

On my 04 RX, even after all the bushings and plastic washers/seals were changed, with no wear in the bulkhead or on the bolts, the A-Arms still had axial travel along the bolts. Mag side was twice as bad as the PTO side. I cut the ridge off one of the old plastic washers/seals and slide it in there next to the new plastic washer. This took out almost all of the A-Arm's endplay. You may have to thin the washer a bit, by sanding it, to allow a few mils of axial endplay. On my sled, both sides now have very little play.

I dint now that pionerrs kit did not include the bulk head, Its usless with out those bushings, I know maxx perf used to have them.