canadianhunter
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
We have no fogging with several HJC electric helmits, only the older LS air 2 fogged. Vents are adjusted different for warm and cold days. My wife and I both wear glasses, but do not use the breath box ( can't stand it)and do not wear anything under the helmit.
For us the jacket is controling factor.
The older jackets had a collar that when zipped up could be rolled down like a turtle neck. The new jackets are made for the mountain riders with almost no collar.
To keep from fogging we have to control some of the air flow from the bottom. I wear a lite turtle neck, like tee shirt material plus a lite dicky (the thing that is like the neck and shoulders from a turtle neck sweater. Just the right amount of material so you can turn your head easily and yet controls the air.
We ride normally 100 to 200 miles each ride up to minus 30 ceceus with no fogging . We do leave the shield open a bit till we get moving. Hope this helps.
For us the jacket is controling factor.
The older jackets had a collar that when zipped up could be rolled down like a turtle neck. The new jackets are made for the mountain riders with almost no collar.
To keep from fogging we have to control some of the air flow from the bottom. I wear a lite turtle neck, like tee shirt material plus a lite dicky (the thing that is like the neck and shoulders from a turtle neck sweater. Just the right amount of material so you can turn your head easily and yet controls the air.
We ride normally 100 to 200 miles each ride up to minus 30 ceceus with no fogging . We do leave the shield open a bit till we get moving. Hope this helps.
Indy
TY 4 Stroke God
so you dont wear a baclava? I think it is just my big noggin. Even with the shield cracked open, I still fog while wearing a baclava over my nose and mouth, could that be the problem?
I know, I could use a swimmers nose clip, and a piece of tubbing that would run from my mouth to the back side and out the bottom of helmet.
I know, I could use a swimmers nose clip, and a piece of tubbing that would run from my mouth to the back side and out the bottom of helmet.
Beenba
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
steve barber said:how about sending your sheild out and have them set for your eyes, my buddy did this for diving and work good. looks like just us older crowd is coming up with good ideas. were are the young guns?
I am 23 and have worn glasses for 15 years. I do not like contacts, I have a pair, but its too much work and they are very uncomfortable I find - too much blinking etc etc. I have worn my glasses for everything I do...hockey, motocross, you name it.
I used to ride with a full face/heated visor, and I found it terrible. You have to open it when stopped, and leave it cracked a bit, etc etc. Not very fun. Now I use a MX style helmet and I have the Scott Snow goggles. This is an improvement over the full face. I only fog now when stopped for long periods of time, or when I am digging the sled out and breathing heavy/sweating. I usually always just hold my breath for as long as possible when stopped, or try and breath gently and aim it to the bottom of the helmet. With these new goggles, I find it is only my glasses fogging up now and not both. My helmet/goggle setup with my snow/breath guard is posted below. I am wearing my glasses in this pic.
I have heard of some tricks of putting sunlight soap on your glasses helps, and i'm sure there are many more tricks. Sunlight soap has worked well for me (lasts about a day), but you can always use your spit, it works for awhile too.
Anyone else have any suggestions/tricks to prevent fogging your glasses? Its a real pain as we all know!
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NY AttakGT
TY 4 Stroke Guru
I wore glasses my very first year I snowmobiled (2001) and got so frustrated finding a way to keep them from not fogging in the helmet. Couldnt do it, so I forced myself into wearing contact lenses. Have not looked back since. And yeah, it was a tough transition into contact, more to do maintenance-wsie, etc.....But well worth it, in my opinion
As far as the goggles, try putting a fan in (like those offered by Scott or Habervision). It will help exhaust some of the moisture build-up.
Indy, when you wear your balaclava, do you cover your mouth? i notice if I keep it over my mouth when riding, I will fog up (restricted breathing, trapping heat in, etc..), so I keep the balaclava down by my chin.
From what I was told, you want to keep the inside of the helmet sealed, meaning, shield down, vents closed so the temp in your shield area is regulated. If you have cold air coming in, it will react with the warm of your face (sweating) and cause moisture, hence, fogging.
And breathe-boxes are a MUST.....MX style especially. I fog instantly if I dont have a breathe-box in the helmet.
As far as the goggles, try putting a fan in (like those offered by Scott or Habervision). It will help exhaust some of the moisture build-up.
Indy, when you wear your balaclava, do you cover your mouth? i notice if I keep it over my mouth when riding, I will fog up (restricted breathing, trapping heat in, etc..), so I keep the balaclava down by my chin.
From what I was told, you want to keep the inside of the helmet sealed, meaning, shield down, vents closed so the temp in your shield area is regulated. If you have cold air coming in, it will react with the warm of your face (sweating) and cause moisture, hence, fogging.
And breathe-boxes are a MUST.....MX style especially. I fog instantly if I dont have a breathe-box in the helmet.
Mtnviper
Vendor
I switched to the pro-vue/turbo fan goggle set-up years ago. I was kind of on the fence about it at first due to the cost. Now that I have it, I can see better with the pro-vue/Smith turbo fan combo then anything else I have tried!
The snap-lense color change is kind of handy, for when the weather/light conditions change through out the day also.
The prescription insert can fog once in awhile in rainy weather, so I recommend getting the fan goggle option also. Then it's just a matter of turning on the fan to clear things up.
The snap-lense color change is kind of handy, for when the weather/light conditions change through out the day also.
The prescription insert can fog once in awhile in rainy weather, so I recommend getting the fan goggle option also. Then it's just a matter of turning on the fan to clear things up.
Indy
TY 4 Stroke God
NY AttakGT said:I wore glasses my very first year I snowmobiled (2001) and got so frustrated finding a way to keep them from not fogging in the helmet. Couldnt do it, so I forced myself into wearing contact lenses. Have not looked back since. And yeah, it was a tough transition into contact, more to do maintenance-wsie, etc.....But well worth it, in my opinion
As far as the goggles, try putting a fan in (like those offered by Scott or Habervision). It will help exhaust some of the moisture build-up.
Indy, when you wear your balaclava, do you cover your mouth? i notice if I keep it over my mouth when riding, I will fog up (restricted breathing, trapping heat in, etc..), so I keep the balaclava down by my chin.
From what I was told, you want to keep the inside of the helmet sealed, meaning, shield down, vents closed so the temp in your shield area is regulated. If you have cold air coming in, it will react with the warm of your face (sweating) and cause moisture, hence, fogging.
And breathe-boxes are a MUST.....MX style especially. I fog instantly if I dont have a breathe-box in the helmet.
Yes, I usually have the baclava over my nose and mouth, simply because my shield is up so it wont fog, and with the shield up I get frost bite. What is a breathe-box? I thought I was supposed to keep vents open so the hot air will escape, so am I wrong?
#1Wolverine
Pro
Did the flexible spending account for medical at work and was able to do premier lasik surgery it was 3000.00 but being tax free it really ends up being about 2250.00. No glasses or contacts anymore they are both a pain in the #*$&@. I figure if it last 10 years it will pay for itself.
NY AttakGT
TY 4 Stroke Guru
Indy said:Yes, I usually have the baclava over my nose and mouth, simply because my shield is up so it wont fog, and with the shield up I get frost bite. What is a breathe-box? I thought I was supposed to keep vents open so the hot air will escape, so am I wrong?
Try keeping the balaclava off your nose and mouth and down by your chin. I notice if I do that (again, chunky guy, heavy breather) that it will restrict my breathing and trap in the moisture/heat from my breathe.
As far as a breathe-box..an absolute must for me....even in the open face I wear. It helps keep your hot breathe down away from the lense or goggles. I wear one in my open face w/ goggles and my full face with heated shield. After riding a few hours, I start getting an icicle at the bottom of the breathe box. If the breathe box wasn't there, all that moisture would have found it's way to my goggles or shield and caused fogging.
As far as keeping the helmet closed....think about why fog happens. It is cold and warm air meeting. Just like if you put a pair of glasses on your face that have been sitting outside in the cold car....fogs up instantly. Keeping the shield down and vents closed will keep the temp inside your shield area regulated...not a constant battle of temps, causing condensation/moisture, i.e fogging.
Here is the breathe box I use for both my helmets, open face w/goggles and my full face with heated shield.
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Rich Kay
TY 4 Stroke Guru
I Rode for many years withe glass's and the only thing that worked the best was to have my facemask on and leave my shield craked just enough to ventilate to stop fogging....and I would always try to control my breathing threw my nose. If I got winded and was breathing out my mouth I would have to open my shield more. Some of the helmets i had did have nice vent systems that open and closed to control things......Just played till it worked,Hope this helps .But now i had lasik surguery (me and the wife, 5 yrs ago) and it's been great!!
GeorgianBayGuy
Extreme
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Good topic. I wear glasses and contacts depending on my situation. If I am going out of the office environment I opt for contacts as wearing (good) sunglasses, especially on the water and driving west into the setting sun, is plain smart. Sledding with contacts is just easier.
Tip one, discovered on 2 motorcycle trips to Viet Nam, is to get disposable contact lenses. They are relatively cheap, always perfect, clean and hygienic. You don't have to carry the case and fluids either. I will never go back to re-usable ones. Ask your eye person for some trial pairs.
Second tip. If you have a big difference in correction eye to eye (mine -5 and -1.75) and are staring to need bifocals, look into Mono Vision. Basically it corrects one (your dominant) eye for distance and the other at a slightly less strength (my -5 is corrected to -3) for close up. Somehow the brain can figure it out and for some it is fantastic. Anyway ask the eye guy and look it up on google. Works fantastic for me.
Tip one, discovered on 2 motorcycle trips to Viet Nam, is to get disposable contact lenses. They are relatively cheap, always perfect, clean and hygienic. You don't have to carry the case and fluids either. I will never go back to re-usable ones. Ask your eye person for some trial pairs.
Second tip. If you have a big difference in correction eye to eye (mine -5 and -1.75) and are staring to need bifocals, look into Mono Vision. Basically it corrects one (your dominant) eye for distance and the other at a slightly less strength (my -5 is corrected to -3) for close up. Somehow the brain can figure it out and for some it is fantastic. Anyway ask the eye guy and look it up on google. Works fantastic for me.
BombaPolaYama
TY 4 Stroke Master
[quote="Indy]Yes, I usually have the baclava over my nose and mouth, simply because my shield is up so it wont fog, and with the shield up I get frost bite. What is a breathe-box? I thought I was supposed to keep vents open so the hot air will escape, so am I wrong?[/quote]
I just wear the balaclava so my nose and mouth are free to breathe and usually have the visor open or just cracked open depending on the temps unless it is a real cold day and have to close it. Don't have much fogging issues with the glasses but would with the shield if I kept it closed. Modular helmets are also great for pitstops.
I just wear the balaclava so my nose and mouth are free to breathe and usually have the visor open or just cracked open depending on the temps unless it is a real cold day and have to close it. Don't have much fogging issues with the glasses but would with the shield if I kept it closed. Modular helmets are also great for pitstops.
RedRX1
Lifetime Member
Look...This isn't that complicated. The only thing that Doo makes that is worth a shi$$ (they don't actually manufacture it) is the Modular and now better modular 2 helmets. I have owned a couple of other brands including HJC, they are not nearly as good. You have to get used to the face mask part, but after you do, these things work flawlessly down to -60C. I can't see my hand in front of my face with out glasses. Had problems for years riding. The modular works all the time in all conditions. If there is sleet/icing shields, you need the extra expensive electric shield, but rarely.
Indy
TY 4 Stroke God
RedRX1 said:Look...This isn't that complicated. The only thing that Doo makes that is worth a shi$$ (they don't actually manufacture it) is the Modular and now better modular 2 helmets. I have owned a couple of other brands including HJC, they are not nearly as good. You have to get used to the face mask part, but after you do, these things work flawlessly down to -60C. I can't see my hand in front of my face with out glasses. Had problems for years riding. The modular works all the time in all conditions. If there is sleet/icing shields, you need the extra expensive electric shield, but rarely.
Look Red, if you would have read all of my posts, you would have seen that I do ride with a BV1, and with the face mask on I cannot close the helmet, the mask is pushed so hard against my face it actually pushes in on my nose (hurts). I purchased 2 BV2's, my wife loves hers, mine would not go over my head. I do have 2 electric shields, neither have worked to stop the fogging. The heated shield is wired direct to the battery, but it is like it doesnt work @ all. I even took sled, helmet and 2 shields to a friend that is a skidoo dealer, he tested both and said they were working fine (of course I did purchase them from him so ...?)
So how do I test my electric shields, anyone?
By the way, I do wear a 3x helmet.
I am going to try the NoFog breath deflector this year. Lots of good reviews and was cheaper than the BVS2 helmet. If it works good fix. If not the BVS2 will be next.
NY AttakGT
TY 4 Stroke Guru
Indy said:So how do I test my electric shields, anyone?
I would start by testing for voltage. On your heated shield you will see two metal connections where the wires from the shield frame attach to the element in the shield. With all your cables hooked up and plugged into the shield and other end into sled, you should have roughly 12v between these 2 connections/terminals. If you don't have voltage there, check for voltage at each of the connections in the shield cable. meaning, unplug the cable from the shield and check voltage there (center lead is hot, outside is ground. Be careful not to short the center and outside together with the meter probe) . No voltage there, check the next connection until you get to the main cable that is connected to the battery.
Additionally, check continuity between the two metal contacts on the heated shield. No continuity means the heating element inside the shield is broken somewhere (might not necessarily be visible either). Which means you need a new heated shield.
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