RTX Meirda
TY 4 Stroke Master
DYNAREX said:
How long did it take you?
freezie
Pro
i did mine last night with a utility knife ,took about 3/4 hr, but i took my time (plus i had my 7 yr old daughter in there like a dirty shirt..i let her spray the silicone spray0it seems to me it rolls easier now, and I also had some windows with some plastic buildup on them from the sliders..
RTX Meirda
TY 4 Stroke Master
Do you think the spray will damage the rubber?
freezie
Pro
silicone spray is rubber safe...i am also going to go out tonight and burn the fringe on all the holes, the factory ones look the worst.
Yamahammer485
TY 4 Stroke Guru
Oh sorry, I think I said that wrong. I was wondering why if you just cut the windows, and you did nothing else, like clipping the bars that you just cut. So that THE only thing you did was cut out the rubber closed windows, wouldnt that be slightly quicker?
And ya, I understand the whole clip on metal having a lower friction coefficent than rubber to slider. One thing I like about the rubber being there, is that you can hear your sliders squeak on the rubber when they get hot, so if for some reason you dont feel the increased drag, you definately know its there. Im not sure if I want to fully clip the track for $$$ reasons, lol. Too many pairs of handguards....
irondog rtx
Extreme
why cut them out all ?
why too much drag? using ant ratchet drivers? slides cooking? just would like to know your doing this what the gain speed , lubeing the slide, or driver change whats the reason . I use walh drivers so I buy all open windows never cut holes but have trimed many paddles to 1.25 from 2 inch makes for a great stiff paddle then groove flat paddle with trim knife irondogrtx out
why too much drag? using ant ratchet drivers? slides cooking? just would like to know your doing this what the gain speed , lubeing the slide, or driver change whats the reason . I use walh drivers so I buy all open windows never cut holes but have trimed many paddles to 1.25 from 2 inch makes for a great stiff paddle then groove flat paddle with trim knife irondogrtx out
first off...I want to do it for slidewear and less drag..
Camoplast say's the closed windows hold snow in for better lubing!
opening the windows lets the snow out! and when the lug height increases getting snow in is the key..
also...with the mono compared to the pro action...the heat exchangers dont drip water on the slides ....
Camoplast say's the closed windows hold snow in for better lubing!
opening the windows lets the snow out! and when the lug height increases getting snow in is the key..
also...with the mono compared to the pro action...the heat exchangers dont drip water on the slides ....
Cutting the windows?
On another site, someone had mentioned they had faster hyfax wear after cutting out the additonal windows-caused by not keeping in the snow?
I would think alot of it depends on how good the snow conditions are that you ride in.
On another site, someone had mentioned they had faster hyfax wear after cutting out the additonal windows-caused by not keeping in the snow?
I would think alot of it depends on how good the snow conditions are that you ride in.
exactly....but that is right...snow/water falls right out...
camoplast makes them the way they are for a reason
Yamahammer485
TY 4 Stroke Guru
12 000kms on my venture = two sets of sliders with the stock yokohama since new in 2000.
With the ripsaw until 20 000 since then = 9 sets of sliders 6 black, 3 blue. And this is in prime northern ontario conditions, no different from years past.
Never once before with my yoko was I even aware of slider wear or having to jump off my sled repeatedly to kick snow on to the sliders. And the sled is set at perfect track tension, just right off from ratcheting, track is aligned and check every ride for alignment, and for what its worth, I change all the bearings every year and check the bushings, and always use tons of grease.
With the Venture TF, we experiemented with it. First we tried it the way it was, and that SUCKED. Following that sled down the trails, all you could smell was burning sliders, and it kinda smells like candles. Next Used the narrower VK540 sliders, and that worked much better, didnt experience so much slider burning, when compared to the stockers. By that I mean we didnt have to change them after the first 3 rides. Just keep in mind that this is in Northern ontario on nice packed trails still. Next, bit the bullet and took the time to cut all the windows, then fully clip the sled and voila, the problem was gone. It finally rode like a sled with a regular track, and it will be the second year with this setup and it worked flawlessly the first year. Cut two opposing windows wider for easy slider change too.
Guys, this is a mistake in the design, it doesnt hold snow in at all, it keeps it from going in, limits the amount of lubrication to the slides, limits the amound of time cold air can cool the sliders, increases friction (fact) on the sliders, and all of which are killing your sliders. Im not sure what they are thinking making the windows excessively narrow and sliders wider, as this prevents any snow or water from getting between the sliders and the clips, but I know that making more lube and less friction to the sliders decreases the wear. The only thing that this track holds is the collected slider material that gets melted off your sliders.
With the ripsaw until 20 000 since then = 9 sets of sliders 6 black, 3 blue. And this is in prime northern ontario conditions, no different from years past.
Never once before with my yoko was I even aware of slider wear or having to jump off my sled repeatedly to kick snow on to the sliders. And the sled is set at perfect track tension, just right off from ratcheting, track is aligned and check every ride for alignment, and for what its worth, I change all the bearings every year and check the bushings, and always use tons of grease.
With the Venture TF, we experiemented with it. First we tried it the way it was, and that SUCKED. Following that sled down the trails, all you could smell was burning sliders, and it kinda smells like candles. Next Used the narrower VK540 sliders, and that worked much better, didnt experience so much slider burning, when compared to the stockers. By that I mean we didnt have to change them after the first 3 rides. Just keep in mind that this is in Northern ontario on nice packed trails still. Next, bit the bullet and took the time to cut all the windows, then fully clip the sled and voila, the problem was gone. It finally rode like a sled with a regular track, and it will be the second year with this setup and it worked flawlessly the first year. Cut two opposing windows wider for easy slider change too.
Guys, this is a mistake in the design, it doesnt hold snow in at all, it keeps it from going in, limits the amount of lubrication to the slides, limits the amound of time cold air can cool the sliders, increases friction (fact) on the sliders, and all of which are killing your sliders. Im not sure what they are thinking making the windows excessively narrow and sliders wider, as this prevents any snow or water from getting between the sliders and the clips, but I know that making more lube and less friction to the sliders decreases the wear. The only thing that this track holds is the collected slider material that gets melted off your sliders.
DYNAREX
Expert
camoplast makes the windows closed for 1 real reason-$$$$$
less labor less clips all adds up to alot of $ saved during manufacturing-they do not hold snow any better-take an open and a closed ride them together on the same trail and you will see there is no difference in snow inside the skidframe-the only good thing is the 3 lb wt savings in clips
the drawbacks are less slide lube-and way more friction compared to clips-so if you want less weight the tracks are good-if you want less weight and good slider wear cut out the windows-if you want less friction add clips and cut the windows out
less labor less clips all adds up to alot of $ saved during manufacturing-they do not hold snow any better-take an open and a closed ride them together on the same trail and you will see there is no difference in snow inside the skidframe-the only good thing is the 3 lb wt savings in clips
the drawbacks are less slide lube-and way more friction compared to clips-so if you want less weight the tracks are good-if you want less weight and good slider wear cut out the windows-if you want less friction add clips and cut the windows out
Capt.Caveman
Extreme
Has anyone thought that the reason they might have the closed windows is to cut down on noise the PRIMARY complaint of land owners and this is one way snowmobile manufacturers are keeping noise down ???????????????
RTX Meirda
TY 4 Stroke Master
I think the manufactuerers want the weight to a minimum and requested a lighter track. Buyers focus so much on the sleds weight, that the manufacturers are forced to save every pound. I am going to open my windows. I feel it will be much better.
I think Dynarex is onto something for sure...
I'm going with my first inclination and will be cutting
I'm going with my first inclination and will be cutting
