Dalton clutch weights question.

[Buckeye]

You insert from the heel. The tip is tapered so that the screw bottoms out without protruding through the tip. I suppose you could try to insert the screw partially in, but you can't be sure each weight was exactly the same. this could throw the clutch out of balance. Maybe? I don't know if the screw position, in the weight, makes a difference in balance.

 

[Motorhead]

You insert from the heel. The tip is tapered so that the screw bottoms out without protruding through the tip. I suppose you could try to insert the screw partially in, but you can't be sure each weight was exactly the same. this could throw the clutch out of balance. Maybe? I don't know if the screw position, in the weight, makes a difference in balance.

Ok Thanks, they sound quite simple, but from what everyone says about them, very effective!

 

[theewarrior]

I would think you will be good with DTYA1......I run the 240/270/290 maps with these weights. (14.6 to 16.6psi) I tend to like them at 77.8g or so which puts the 240 map bang on at 8850. And then the bigger maps will rev 9150 and abit higher. Now you can add or remove slugs depending on if your lake running the big maps or trail riding.

I went all over the place this winter with maps and grams, and always come back to around 77.8g for the most fun on trail. Id be alot heavier for radar/ice running though. More like loaded up 82g for that. (true range is approx 74.8 empty to 82.2 loaded)


Dan

Hey Dan what springs you like to run with those weights?

 

[34pontiac]

You insert from the heel. The tip is tapered so that the screw bottoms out without protruding through the tip. I suppose you could try to insert the screw partially in, but you can't be sure each weight was exactly the same. this could throw the clutch out of balance. Maybe? I don't know if the screw position, in the weight, makes a difference in balance.

Screw in the tip? Now I'm confused again.
I was just told the only weight added is in the heel with Daltons? ?

 

[DMCTurbo]

Screw in the tip? Now I'm confused again.
I was just told the only weight added is in the heel with Daltons? ?

You add it in the heal but it threads up to the tip. I'll take a picture for you tomorrow.

 

[snowbeast]

Screw in the tip? Now I'm confused again.
I was just told the only weight added is in the heel with Daltons? ?

The threads go the whole way through to tip,but I think the question was,can you just screw in so you load heel only,or mid so you load only mid also,and maybe leave tip empty?

 

[Motorhead]

The threads go the whole way through to tip,but I think the question was,can you just screw in so you load heel only,or mid so you load only mid also,and maybe leave tip empty?

Yep I get it. Screw in from the heel, bottom it out and then add another if more weight is needed.

Another advises on using the shorter screw weight first, whereas the longer ones may back out hard once inserted.

 

[krm]

If your looking to just add more heel weight i use a ball point type spring cut to the length i need to take up the room then add heel weight .

 

[TT]

X2.....they just plain work, and are simple to adjust/add/remove slugs trailside. Hard to beat that.

X3

 

[ROCKERDAN]

You can place weight anywhere along the threaded hole you want.

Dalton does not recommend you using the LONGEST slug in tip, as it can get stuck, other then that you can use whatever slug anywhere you want.

I have run slugs at HEEL FLUSH before, and I always use extra loctite on slugs.

But you will find with in most all cases you want the weight all the way threaded down to the tip.

If you feel you want a MID weight, I have done this.....you will want to COUNT EACH TURN of the allen tool, so the mid slug ends up equal from weight to weight. But for the most part bottomed out slugs, then adding more bottomed out is how I end up.

Im running a lesser primary spring now. Was running the Dalton 53/133kg....but now running the 48/120kg.

Dan

 

[theewarrior]

You can place weight anywhere along the threaded hole you want.

Dalton does not recommend you using the LONGEST slug in tip, as it can get stuck, other then that you can use whatever slug anywhere you want.

I have run slugs at HEEL FLUSH before, and I always use extra loctite on slugs.

But you will find with in most all cases you want the weight all the way threaded down to the tip.

If you feel you want a MID weight, I have done this.....you will want to COUNT EACH TURN of the allen tool, so the mid slug ends up equal from weight to weight. But for the most part bottomed out slugs, then adding more bottomed out is how I end up.

Im running a lesser primary spring now. Was running the Dalton 53/133kg....but now running the 48/120kg.

Dan

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Thanks so are you still with dalton black/o secondary?

 

[waldo1]

all u doo to get a slug in between some ware in the tread zone is insert a smaller slug and another one tight against the first one, and it'll stay there - ive had better luck with dtya2 than the 1's - they've tested out equal or faster in every way - i dont use the dtya1's anymore - and the 70's work best on a sno packed trail to 15# of boost - then u need more weight so i switch to the carbide filled super slugs or change to a dtya2 - but that weight is not as trail friendly as qay70's and STM weights work for 500' WOT punches but i dont like em on the trail - at a 90 punch - dosent get to top end very fast - dont like em at all - for trail over 110... but i theres so many adjustments and didnt spend all winter trying - also gearing up is needed for anything near 120..... and as to inserting the 1" slug in first in a dalton,,, as long as there not brand new, its fine to do after inserting a shorter one back and forth... if it gets stuck , u just heat it up but ive never had to doo that... once the threads cleaned up from screwing em in all the way - its fine.

 

[1049triple]

What is the difference in curvature between the Stock, Dalton and STM weight? Because I am replacing my Team clutchs on my High Country 9000 to put Yamaha ones. Had the Daltons on my Team and the curvature is exactly the same as the original weights. Been disappointed. Always liked curved weights better. How is the winder reacting to curvature? Thanks.

 

[Doowithblue]

What is the difference in curvature between the Stock, Dalton and STM weight? Because I am replacing my Team clutchs on my High Country 9000 to put Yamaha ones. Had the Daltons on my Team and the curvature is exactly the same as the original weights. Been disappointed. Always liked curved weights better. How is the winder reacting to curvature? Thanks.

This is actually a very good question. The reason I say this is because every company makes a different profile. For example: The STM 60 YS weight that were developed for the Winder use a fairly flat curvature closer to stock. Does everyone use these? No. Many are using the 60Y's as they have a more round curvature similar to perhaps the heavy hitters. Does this equate to better belt life? Imho no. But you may see better ET's. So choose wisely if you're a trail rider that would like to come home on the same belt you left with.
Guys with the big tunes running the curved weights have such a violent upshift that the secondary is like wtf just happened. Its my opinion that we may need to slow down the shift somewhat with a flatter curve and maybe even a bigger primary spring. Remember we are always shifting with the primary clutch.

 

[Doowithblue]

I may start yet another new thread on this very thing. There are many members in here who feel like the belt issue is just another Internet thing as they have gotten many miles on their ride without issue. While that is encouraging to know my glass is still half empty regarding a real fix.