Did all of you see the Yamaha Viper Turbo Deals??

[stingray719]

Well guys,after reading this thread,I want to offer a bit of a sales pitch.I want to offer a direct comparison of the MPI Yamaha approved 180hp turbo kit to the Hurricane 190hp turbo kit.First off I want to say nothing bad about the guys at MPI.Im sure that they love this sport like the rest of us.
Lets compare price first.I understand that the MPI kit sells for about $2200 and takes 9-11 hours to install at a dealer install cost of $700-$900 to install totaling upwards of $3100.This kit is Yamaha approved but Im not sure its warranty approved. The Hurricane 190hp kit sells for $3495 and takes 2 hours to install at a dealer cost of about $158 using the same labor rate totaling $3695.The Hurricane kit is $595 more expensive.What do you get for the extra cost in the Hurricane 190hp kit?A Garrett ball bearing fast spool turbo,larger injectors for proper fuel control on long high speed runs,controlled by Powercomander5,seasoned and proven high mileage performance,able to run on 87 octane and best of all,the Hurricane 190hp kit actually makes 193hp.An extra 13hp.At $47 per HP,that's worth $611.And easily up gradable to 240hp not to mention the Hurricane Viper 400hp kit.
I admire the people at MPI for there business sense and again I have nothing bad to say about the Guys but I want to show what we are offering at Hurricane Performance as a choice to consumers.
We have worked hard at Hurricane Performance to develop the most powerful and RELIABLE turbo kit for the Yamaha Viper that will not alter the sled permanently in anyway so as to enhance the value during ownership as well as trade in.
Dave Marshall

I am curious, what does Hurricane do to add additional cooling that is needed from a boosted Viper? I know that is alot of what takes so much time to install a MPI turbo is all the additional cooling line updates, so I was curious what Hurricane does to address this.

 

[matt@mpi]

Well guys,after reading this thread,I want to offer a bit of a sales pitch.I want to offer a direct comparison of the MPI Yamaha approved 180hp turbo kit to the Hurricane 190hp turbo kit.First off I want to say nothing bad about the guys at MPI.Im sure that they love this sport like the rest of us.
Lets compare price first.I understand that the MPI kit sells for about $2200 and takes 9-11 hours to install at a dealer install cost of $700-$900 to install totaling upwards of $3100.This kit is Yamaha approved but Im not sure its warranty approved. The Hurricane 190hp kit sells for $3495 and takes 2 hours to install at a dealer cost of about $158 using the same labor rate totaling $3695.The Hurricane kit is $595 more expensive.What do you get for the extra cost in the Hurricane 190hp kit?A Garrett ball bearing fast spool turbo,larger injectors for proper fuel control on long high speed runs,controlled by Powercomander5,seasoned and proven high mileage performance,able to run on 87 octane and best of all,the Hurricane 190hp kit actually makes 193hp.An extra 13hp.At $47 per HP,that's worth $611.And easily up gradable to 240hp not to mention the Hurricane Viper 400hp kit.
I admire the people at MPI for there business sense and again I have nothing bad to say about the Guys but I want to show what we are offering at Hurricane Performance as a choice to consumers.
We have worked hard at Hurricane Performance to develop the most powerful and RELIABLE turbo kit for the Yamaha Viper that will not alter the sled permanently in anyway so as to enhance the value during ownership as well as trade in.
Dave Marshall

Thanks for your input Dave. Let me clarify a few things. The MPI turbo kit will "NOT" affect your factory warranty. Its the only kit that will not.

1. Install times are subjective. 9-11 might be a little on the extreme side. 6-8 is more realistic. It might take the average guy about 2 hour just to try to take off the hood and remove the airbox! With input from Yamaha on what's required to make a "FACTORY" looking and performing system required some relocating of some components. This adds to the time of install.
2. Ball bearing VS. bushing. If you think its a measurable difference in spool up you've got a better butt dyno than me. Now if we were comparing this on a diesel truck with a giant turbo then you have a point. The Mitsubishi turbo is very proven and reliable unit used worldwide on millions of cars.
3. Larger injectors are a band-aid to a problem that occurs with boost over 7psi. The stock fuel pump is not strong enough. We believe that larger injectors fix one problem but cause more. Starting and rough idle are just a few. A proper fuel system would include a new pump with a 1:1 regulator with a fuel return style. This system can support way more boost then this turbo can deliver. The "Factory" injectors can now support up to 10psi with no problems. This regulated system maintains the proper fuel pressure based on boost and returns what's not needed. Just like every high performance car on the road. The reason for doing larger injectors, its easier then installing a fuel pump. Once again we trying to do it the way the factory would do things.
4. As far as 87 octane. What boost level is that? If you can get 190hp on 87 you must have different engines from Yamaha. How can one kit differ from the next when it comes to this?
5. We use a smaller turbo then most. Be we feel that doing so provides the most stock like throttle response. The turbo we use is capable of 250hp. That's more than most people want. If someone wants more than that, they won't be buying this kit to start with. If a turbo is sized to deliver 190-400hp I would question if that's the turbo I would want to use on a 200hp kit?
6. One thing left out of all this is the electronic boost controller. So for $595.00 LESS you get a system that will maintain an absolute pressure, regardless of weather or altitude conditions.

Our intercooler/air box uses a billet aluminum base plate with billet aluminum tubes pressed into it. This allows us to machine a surface that silicone couplers won't blow off from. This also allows for a VERY repeatable part, we can make thousands of them the same every time.

Very clean and "factory" looking turbo and muffler install. Note the aluminum heat shield over the turbo. The muffler is made of 100% stainless steel with no packing to blow out. Then we wrap it in ceramic insulation with a outer aluminum shell for added heat management. This muffler will pass any sound checks you might encounter. Our cold air intake is on the opposite side of the sled away from the HOT turbo and exhaust fumes that might be sucked into the belly pan in deep snow. The cold air intake can be positioned on top of the clutch cover (trail) or through the hood (mountain) you choice.

We do ask the that you trim a small amount of plastic from the inside of your hood. We couldn't bring ourselves to smashing dents into the top of our intercool/airbox. We felt it was more important to provide a smooth radiused inlet into the motor.

 

[Studroes144]

Thanks for all the info Matt. Again I haven't heard a single complaint on either setup. I chose mpi for a few reasons. First reason, excellent dealer/costumer relationship, my stage one cost next to nothing more than the trail kit, reason 2, here at 500-1000 feet elevation, I need to have the peace of mind of what the inner cooler offers, 3-if yamaha is willing to put it in their book of things to sell, it's top notch!

 

[TD Max]

Would really like to see more pics of the intake routing, and what you do for the non IC kits as well as cost to upgrade the base kit to intercooled.

It would appear from the pics that the MPI turbo rides a bit closer to the CL of the sled which is definitely a good thing.