Did Yama decide on a program for 05 RX-1 rear mono susp?

[MrSled]

I hear ya....dont know what to say...

 

[SnowBandit]

Tom you will probably be waiting on answers to all questions about as long as everyone else is waiting for answers to all their problems, the problem is the answers never have a conclusion, Yami just says we are working on it, great when my sled is 5 years old they will have a fix for it but that's only 3 years after I sold the thing AND SPENT HUNDREDS AND EVEN THOUSANDS FIXING THEIR F - UP just so I can ride a yami. Once again its really getting old Yamaha step up to the plate like the other mfg. and fix what is wrong with your current owner sleds. Wow venting again. Hello hello hello hello hello hello echo echo echo anybody out there listening from Yamaha.

Tell it to us that owned 2002 Vipers. I fought with that thing at -40F as it over heated all the time. I guess they did need the rear cooler. Or what they did to the guys that went to test the sleds in NH... Yamaha is a backwards company I think. I am still mad as h-ll about that ride in NH... I hope your reading this Yamaha!!!! Fix these issues and set things right with guys/gals.... Having the reps say they never heard of a problem is not good. Lucky for the guys I told him to check out here and see all the people with the same problems. Cracked rails and such.

 

[Sled Dog]

Has anyone heard anything yet on what is going on with the 05 suspension parts failures?

 

[Snorover]

I don't have any rust yet, but I do have paint coming off at the welds.

I want to touch up were the paint came off.

Q. Any points on prep before I paint??? and what kind of paint to use???

 

[4Fighter]

Just when I thought it was safe to jump back on the PRO-YAMAHA band-wagon.

So let me get this straight:

You buy a $10,000, "state-of-the-art" sled that supposedly has "over 100 improvements from last years model) then buy or replace - out of necessity:

1. A $1500 - $2000 skid or $500+ shocks because it:
A. rides like crap,
and/or
B. The components don't hold-up because:
b1. They're poorly designed
b2. They're poorly fabricated

2. $375 skis becasue it doesn't handle.
3. $450 seat because it's too low or too hard or both.
4. Switch to a roller secondary clutch setup because the buttons keep breaking.
5. A new track because the original falls apart.
6. Bearings from a different supplier because you don't trust the O.E.
7. $100+ to put the oil filter in a better spot so it's easier to maintain.
8. $4000+ to make it go faster. Didn't you read #1 - 6?

The only thing left that is O.E. is pretty much the engine, the tunnel, and the hood, and in most cases the sled only has 1500 miles on it too. Then you end-up with a $13,000.00+ sled that the dealer or some guy on the internet will only give you $3500 for? And the only answer you get from the manufacturer is: ALL OF THESE ISSUES HAVE BEEN ADDRESED IN THE NEW MODEL, so if you want these things fixed, buy the new model?

That's a Piss-poor excuse for shoty design and workmanship in my book. Maybe the '06's are better? Honestly, I don't have another $10,000 to throw-away on Yamaha's next great idea to find out.

I'm either confused or I've been brain washed. Please tell me again why my:

Yama-haul your seld to the shop
Yama-haul your butt to the parts counter
Yama-break your wallet
Yama-ha ha we got your money already, why should we care?
Yama-...oh oh
Yama-hog
Yama-get hauled back to the trailer
Yama-HARLEY DAVIDSON...

RX-1 is soooooooooooooo great?

Yes, I'm a little PO'd that my properly maintained, "high-performance 4-stroke" Yamaha snowmobile couldn't even finish the season AGAIN!!!!! The ONLY thing keeping me from parking it alongside the old Lynx and letting it rot, is the fact that it may be my last snowmobile, it's a 4-stroke, and I'm still making payments on it. I'm not saying anyone brand is better either, and I don't care about the problems of other OEM's because I didn't buy their product, I bought a Yamaha and have enough problems of my own with it to care less. It's leaving a bitter taste in my mouth that just keeps biting back. Who would have ever thought that a $10,000, 4-stroke snowmobile would become nothing more than a disposable razor? If Yamaha made those, they'd probably cost $100.00/each, be made out of cardboard that was painted to look like metal, and only shave 1/2 of your face before the "revolutionary" plastic blade dulled or broke. But the fit and finish would be top-notch. If you wanted a clean, close, complete, shave, free of irritation you'd have to ante-up another $100.00 for the new model. But at least you could try it out at the local traveling info-mercial before you ordered it.

So now all I have to look forward to, yet again, is spending more money and more time than I should have to, to prep my sled for another season that will probably be cut short too. Maybe I'm venting because there's no snow? Last time I checked, I couldn't ride my RX-1 when it was snowing. Thank God for summer, it helps take away some of the sting.

 

[Sodes]

Yamaha Quality

Dude,

What the hell are you doing to it, driving through gravel and doing jumps into rail-ties? I have an 05' RX-1 with 1500 miles and other than slightly worn hyfax, which is no fault but the weather's. I've seen nothing wrong, nata, zip. My buddy and I bought an 05' Warrior and RX-1 and we are happy as pigs in Sh_t. Unless the Japanese took a few weeks off from exercising in the morning when they built yours, which I doubt, I could only assume that you've beating your sled!!! I'm sorry, I had to say it. Here are a few tips on keeping the sled working longer and without problems:

1. Ride on snow
2. Use throttle positions other than full the majority of the time.
3. Avoid gravel, rocks, and chunks of wood.
4. Ride in temperatures below 30 F
5. Assume that the skid must be removed and greased annually,
6. Don't expect reliability to remain if you are modifying components, such as picking the track, something’s gotta give.
7. Don't trust the dealer, this site has more information than what your dealer will know,
8. Don't compare the RX-1 with an AC Lynx.

Ed

 

[Sled Dog]

Is he abusing his sleds because there is no grease zerts in stress related moving parts?????? The parts that are there are plastic I assume they used plastic to hide the noise metal to metal would make once it wore and to lessen the weight. Wheel bearing with no place to grease????? Paint falling off and places where there is no paint so of course it rusts. Skid rails cracking where the wheels bolt on and in some cases falling off with wheels still attached. This is all sub standard work that should be on Chinese products not Japanese.

Now come on these issues are directly related to the lack of design and durability and not the way it is rode. Yamaha got pissed at the RX-1 ton name calling this sled took and chopped too many corners to get the weight down. Plastic parts weigh less and on a dozen grease zerts and grease alone would weight at least 3 to 4 ounces less. Now weigh metal bushings against the plastic ones to take more weight off but the durability suffered and now there name is as more and more people find out how shoddy this skid was built.


WHEN ARE WE GOING TO HEAR BACK FROM YAMAHA MR SLED WE HAVE GIVEN THEM MORE THAN ENOUGH TIME.

 

[Sodes]

Rust on suspension parts

On a side note, powder coating is a very durable surface coating system, however it's brittle and once chipped from flexing water will get underneath you will have rust. Although there are two-step powder coating systems to protect against corrosion, there is no sustitute for an electrochemical bond such as electro-plating or anionic or self etching primers. Iron resides in nature in an oxized state (rust = iron ore) and to inhibit rust you must tie up the free electrons so it doesn't attract oxygen happily transfered in water and accellerated by salts. Incidentllay, powder coating was developed as a sustitue for solvent based paints and coatings (clean air regulations even in Japan) and it has been over sold as the end all for years. Soooooooooooo next time you see rust on the welds of your RX-1 it's just a little corrosion where water got underneath the powdercoating, but unchecked it will weaken the weld.

Sodes

 

[Convert]

Re: Yamaha Quality

Dude,

What the hell are you doing to it, driving through gravel and doing jumps into rail-ties? I have an 05' RX-1 with 1500 miles and other than slightly worn hyfax, which is no fault but the weather's. I've seen nothing wrong, nata, zip. My buddy and I bought an 05' Warrior and RX-1 and we are happy as pigs in Sh_t. Unless the Japanese took a few weeks off from exercising in the morning when they built yours, which I doubt, I could only assume that you've beating your sled!!! I'm sorry, I had to say it. Here are a few tips on keeping the sled working longer and without problems:

1. Ride on snow
2. Use throttle positions other than full the majority of the time.
3. Avoid gravel, rocks, and chunks of wood.
4. Ride in temperatures below 30 F
5. Assume that the skid must be removed and greased annually,
6. Don't expect reliability to remain if you are modifying components, such as picking the track, something’s gotta give.
7. Don't trust the dealer, this site has more information than what your dealer will know,
8. Don't compare the RX-1 with an AC Lynx.

Ed

Let me know how things look after 3000 miles I love my RX1's but just as a comparison my 03 with the proaction has almost 5K on it the skid looks like new very minor rust all the idler wheels are original. My 05 on the other hand has 2500 miles on it and the Pivot arms look really rusted on the bottom side especially, and not one of the small idler wheels turns worth a %$*#% I have an awesome dealer and I know he will take care of me this fall when parts become available (hopefully). But that does'nt change the fact that that Yamaha has a problem they really should address at least keep us in the loop as to what they're thinking. The majority of us here are loyal Yammi owners only seem's right that Yamaha would show us the same respect. I know Tom has asked these questions to Yamaha over and over seem's he's not getting treated any better than we are I only hope that Yamaha is reading this thread and will finally let us know what to expect

 

[Sodes]

Good point....I'll take your lead and keep an eye open.

Sodes

 

[4Fighter]

Re: Yamaha Quality

 

[Sodes]

Funny how, do I amuse you??

Hey, all in good fun, but you did extend the 121 to 136 and change the spring. I assume you changed to a 136" track. I'd be interested in seeing how your extension compares to the new 06' 136" mono-shock and if there were mods to the 121" monoshock to accomidate the added weight and stresses of the 136"?

Sodes

 

[jtssrx]

I had to put an Expert X In my 03 to make it ride right. I never complained once about that. Plus anyone that complians about the Zert issue had teh ability to tell there dealer they refused to take the sled without the fittings.

I'm pretty sure the 07 stuff will be better then the 06 stuff. I fyou want to bitch at Yamaha go buy a Cat. then you can have 27 recalls on your sled. Pull your skids add the zerts Check yuoui welds and if there is an issue take the skid in. If there is indeed a true issue with the Skid Yamaha will be forced to address it.

 

[Sled Dog]

I had to put an Expert X In my 03 to make it ride right. I never complained once about that. Plus anyone that complians about the Zert issue had teh ability to tell there dealer they refused to take the sled without the fittings.

I'm pretty sure the 07 stuff will be better then the 06 stuff. I fyou want to bitch at Yamaha go buy a Cat. then you can have 27 recalls on your sled. Pull your skids add the zerts Check yuoui welds and if there is an issue take the skid in. If there is indeed a true issue with the Skid Yamaha will be forced to address it.

So what you are saying is it is OK for Yamaha to cut corners and use inadequate parts and that we should all take it up the hoop. I thought this was a Yamaha I bought not a cat. You changed your skid to an expert x out of choice. We are changing parts out of necessity big difference bud. We dont want to change what we got we want what was not built right fixed.

 

[cgwiz]

Please don't get the wrong idea about asking the question in the first place if Yama will offer a program for the rear susp on the 05 monoshock. I'm not b******** , I just want to make it right! I do feel disappointed with the lack of communication from the company, this is completely opposite from the approach Yama showed for the 2002 Viper owners. Putting out a tech bulletin for placement of grease zerks in the 05 suspension is not a high ticket item.