LJ 452
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As I've said before, I really think the meqga float is going to make the mono what it hasn't been since it came out. That is capable of handling the occasional slam. It's not a big bump skid, so don't go into it with that expectation. The float would handle it I just don't think the skid can. With that, make sure to reinforce the pivot arms, and make sure all your bushings are good. I would consider going oilite in the rear as well. The skid was not originally designed for the loads you are going to be putting on it. Heck it can't handle the stock shock. Should be a great combination having both front and rear floats. That was a huge problem with my apex, the front would far outride the rear. Make sure to play with the full range of pressures and any dampening. I ran 65-75 Psi in my float 1s on the apex. The float X's on my Nytro are set to 95-100, 125-150 if I'm out on the track. I never would have run my Apex at that.
Any idea how it's valved?
Any idea how it's valved?
sk-rx1
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Does anyone have any thoughts on how this new shock will be to deal with on a day to day basis. A Yamaha rep told me that the ride is very sensitive to air pressure, and that it should be adjusted every day of riding, apparently there is small leakage as it is used. And they are saying it should be done with no load. Getting under the sled each day of riding is not always practical, with snow and ice etc. Ulmer is working on an electronic system, that would be very cool but he is researching the pressure under load thing, and the system will probably cost a bit. I was thinking of a remote fill port, but even that must be concerned with the air line being protected from snow and ice. Any thoughts?
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Use nitrogen , it will not change day to day !
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sk-rx1
i have been running my floats on my rtx since 2006 with ZERO issues. i sent them to hygear last year with 7000 miles on them for a rebuild but they were not leaking. i felt it was better to do it during the off season then have an issue during riding season. normally i set them at the beginning of the season and forget about them. they are without a doubt the most reliable piece on my sled.
i think you are being over technical about the floats. if you search on here you will find very few failures or even leaks reported with the float shocks.
i think once you find a pressure setting that suits your riding style and the usual trail conditions you ride, you will not touch the shock for the rest of the season.
i have been running my floats on my rtx since 2006 with ZERO issues. i sent them to hygear last year with 7000 miles on them for a rebuild but they were not leaking. i felt it was better to do it during the off season then have an issue during riding season. normally i set them at the beginning of the season and forget about them. they are without a doubt the most reliable piece on my sled.
i think you are being over technical about the floats. if you search on here you will find very few failures or even leaks reported with the float shocks.
i think once you find a pressure setting that suits your riding style and the usual trail conditions you ride, you will not touch the shock for the rest of the season.
sk-rx1
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RTX Hopefully you are correct, I have heard this before about floats, they are very reliable. My concern comes directly from the Yamaha rep at the snow show in Syracuse. Hopefully the mega float holds up as well as the standard models. I don't mind checking them once in a while, but would hate to have to do it before each ride. That is not always convenient. And the abuse from non-Yamaha people about having to roll my sled on it's side before a ride would not be good. I still like the idea of having a hose to a fill port on the tunnel, but the issues of keeping that hose from being damaged may not be worth it.
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Floats are good for what they are, but they still lack the response and ultimate performance of a good shock with spring... especially as the miles rack up. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to piss in anyone's cheerios, you'll have fun with them, they take big hits very well. I was all about them for years, ran them on everything, but eventually I found their downsides.
If Yamaha had given us the Ohlins Mono with a variation of the European Specs, PDS (which was never offered), and some beefier hardware.. IMO we'd all be thinking VERY differently about it.
Hopefully the Float will prove to be a better shock by virtue of being properly set-up right off.
If Yamaha had given us the Ohlins Mono with a variation of the European Specs, PDS (which was never offered), and some beefier hardware.. IMO we'd all be thinking VERY differently about it.
Hopefully the Float will prove to be a better shock by virtue of being properly set-up right off.
ahicks
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bjowett said:Hopefully the Float will prove to be a better shock by virtue of being properly set-up right off.
There's a frst time for everything!
stealth800
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That shock is too nice to put under a skid! LOL. It will be very interesting to seee how well this works in the mono.The main concern Yamaha has with the air pressure has nothing to do with it leaking, it has to do with air expanding and contracting in relation to tempurature. So as stated already in this thread, if you fill it with nitrogen the changes will be a lot less.
machzrobbie
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How's the reports on the air shock???? I just picked one up today and wonder what guys are running the pressure at.
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bjowett said:Floats are good for what they are, but they still lack the response and ultimate performance of a good shock with spring... especially as the miles rack up. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to piss in anyone's cheerios, you'll have fun with them, they take big hits very well. I was all about them for years, ran them on everything, but eventually I found their downsides.
If Yamaha had given us the Ohlins Mono with a variation of the European Specs, PDS (which was never offered), and some beefier hardware.. IMO we'd all be thinking VERY differently about it.
Hopefully the Float will prove to be a better shock by virtue of being properly set-up right off.
x2.... When I talked to Ohlins, it was not their recconmendation for the Apex.... They gave them a setup and Yamaha passed on it....
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LJ 452 said:As I've said before, I really think the meqga float is going to make the mono what it hasn't been since it came out. That is capable of handling the occasional slam. It's not a big bump skid, so don't go into it with that expectation. The float would handle it I just don't think the skid can. With that, make sure to reinforce the pivot arms, and make sure all your bushings are good. I would consider going oilite in the rear as well. The skid was not originally designed for the loads you are going to be putting on it. Heck it can't handle the stock shock. Should be a great combination having both front and rear floats. That was a huge problem with my apex, the front would far outride the rear. Make sure to play with the full range of pressures and any dampening. I ran 65-75 Psi in my float 1s on the apex. The float X's on my Nytro are set to 95-100, 125-150 if I'm out on the track. I never would have run my Apex at that.
Any idea how it's valved?
I'm pretty excited to try mine out. I'm only about 185 geared up and that Ohlins did nothing but bottom out. I hate that shock. Maybe it would be ok if valved and new spring but I know two things. 1)the Ohlins the way it sits should have never been put on this sled and 2)Fox can build a great shock. Looking forward to reporting on it. Did the beef up on the skid but whats the oilite LJ?
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snowbiscuit
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I have both, Ohlin on 06RTX and SE.....I like a plush ride so if I had to choose it would be the Ohlin
jneilsonjr
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I have my mega set at 200psi, The shock was by far the best thing I did for my apex.
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Got my first run on the new fox mega float this weekend.
day 1 the trails were pretty bumpy. not too bad.
175 psi in the shock. handled everything like a champ. friends even mentioned that the sled appeared to not bottom from thier view behind me.
day 2. warm weather, light rain, heavy traffic, no grooming all contributed to terrible trails with 1 -2 foot whoops everywhere.
i pushed my sled pretty hard and was able to bottom the shock out a few times. for the most part i am thrilled with this new shock. sled rides awesome. don't bottom nearly as much as before.
i think that with some fine tuning with the air pressure (add a few lbs) all will be good. no more complaining about the mono for me!!!
day 1 the trails were pretty bumpy. not too bad.
175 psi in the shock. handled everything like a champ. friends even mentioned that the sled appeared to not bottom from thier view behind me.
day 2. warm weather, light rain, heavy traffic, no grooming all contributed to terrible trails with 1 -2 foot whoops everywhere.
i pushed my sled pretty hard and was able to bottom the shock out a few times. for the most part i am thrilled with this new shock. sled rides awesome. don't bottom nearly as much as before.
i think that with some fine tuning with the air pressure (add a few lbs) all will be good. no more complaining about the mono for me!!!
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