Glad to be on a Yamaha !

[Flatlander SE]

Last weekend was ruined by a blown 2010 M8 w/1200 miles. Traveled 8.5 hours/760 KM = 1.5 hours of riding/57 KM for myself. Sometimes I wonder what the point is in having a reliable sled just so someone else's ruins the day.

 

[Super Sled]

If there was no yamaha i would be on the new cat for sure.

Me too without a doubt.

 

[Super Sled]

Last weekend was ruined by a blown 2010 M8 w/1200 miles. Traveled 8.5 hours/760 KM = 1.5 hours of riding/57 KM for myself. Sometimes I wonder what the point is in having a reliable sled just so someone else's ruins the day.

Because some day that will be yourself broken down and he wil do the same for you.

 

[Mad Russian]

That is so true.

 

[pwa]

Last weekend was ruined by a blown 2010 M8 w/1200 miles. Traveled 8.5 hours/760 KM = 1.5 hours of riding/57 KM for myself. Sometimes I wonder what the point is in having a reliable sled just so someone else's ruins the day.

I wonder why they make spare parts for Yamaha... If you going in to a Yamaha shop they have machines in their repair shop... Just for show?

 

[pwa]

Last weekend was ruined by a blown 2010 M8 w/1200 miles. Traveled 8.5 hours/760 KM = 1.5 hours of riding/57 KM for myself. Sometimes I wonder what the point is in having a reliable sled just so someone else's ruins the day.

Because some day that will be yourself broken down and he wil do the same for you.

Exactly... been there done that. Towed and been towed...

 

[pwa]

Who cares about the 98 SRX, that was what thirteen year's ago but apparently it was still more dependable than what he was towing,LOL. After 03 the F-7's were dog's. This thread was about Doo's dependability anyway and they Doo have issue's!!!!!

Yes I know that the doo 800's have issues. But the regular 600 SDI or e-tec is pretty solid machines as long as you change the ISO-bearing every 6500 km. Dependent on how you drive of course.

So yes give Poo and Doo #*$&@ for their 800's now and in the past but I'm think its funny that the SRX from -98 was the example because it had a shitty engine. Could match any Doo of today.

 

[pwa]

Oh by the way! Change bearing's when changing piston's, No big deal. LOL, What a joke!!!!!

If you have a two stroke you must change pistons, seen Yammies, Polaris, Cats and Doos who put parts thru the crank just because they did not. And when you have the engine apart or at service for that reason have them changing the bearings. Its not that big a deal.

I know that every solution brings problems. The two stroke is a great engine but it has its flaws. It doesnt need that much service but when it does you better do it or it blows.

Been with ppl on packed ice who has to stop every 200 meters because of overheating. Burnt hifax or whatever. The sled type Yamaha Fx Nytro XTX with their high quality half clipped track and cheap hifax.

Changing to a full clipped track and high temperature hifax and getting some icescratchers... No big deal.. problem fixed. It cost money but... the problem is fixed. More expensive than changing the ISO-bearings but the problem is fixed.

Same on a ISO-bearing two-stroke like the 600 SDI or 600 E-tec, you change bearings one time in 8 or 9 K's and then you sell it. IS THAT SUCH A BIG DEAL?

 

[Elton Buss]

I had a'98 srx, last trip riding in '98 a friend broke down with an old kaw. intruder. I towed him back to the cabin at 70MPH, and when we got there he told me he had never gotten that sled to go that fast on its own power. My point is that sled had a bad crank at that time but never let me down.

 

[Mad Russian]

Motors are noy the only problem that doo and poo have! There electrical design sucks. I seen lots of them with coil, stator problems. And then on top of that the clutching. Take a look at the doos clutches they have way to much belt dust in there, and feel them just after 10min of riding they are so hot you cant even touch them. In my opinion they dont do enough testing before they start selling them. With doo we are there test dummys.

 

[pwa]

I had a'98 srx, last trip riding in '98 a friend broke down with an old kaw. intruder. I towed him back to the cabin at 70MPH, and when we got there he told me he had never gotten that sled to go that fast on its own power. My point is that sled had a bad crank at that time but never let me down.

My point is that many of 98's SRX blew up if they did not fix the crank problem.

And you know that the SRX had the crank problem and instead of fixing it you just drove? Smart!

 

[pwa]

Motors are noy the only problem that doo and poo have! There electrical design sucks. I seen lots of them with coil, stator problems. And then on top of that the clutching. Take a look at the doos clutches they have way to much belt dust in there, and feel them just after 10min of riding they are so hot you cant even touch them. In my opinion they dont do enough testing before they start selling them. With doo we are there test dummys.

I give you that, the belt problem on BRP products, not only the doo's but many of the Lynx 49ers has the belt problems to.

But I ride with lots of friends who has doo's, poo's and Yammies. If there was no Cat out there my choice would be a Yamaha or maybe a Pro RMK 800 even if I know that engine is nothing to trust. My last choice would be a Doo 800R or 800 E-tec.

But my friends with RMK 600 or Summit 600 doesnt seem to have all this problems that you describe. We mostly drive in powder or off pist terrain and I dont see them as bad sleds. The Summit 800R I know and some of the CF 800 poos had mapping problems and grenade. About Yamaha, the only problem they have is that they get stuck and are pretty heavy for our way of driving.

The well built chassie of Yamaha makes cheap belts last forever even with lots of abusive driving. But the well built chassie of an Apex comes with a price to. Not just money but weight. The very expensive belts on 800 doo's doesnt why I dont know but probably to high gearing and no self centered driven clutch.

If you talk to me I will say that the last sled I'm going to buy is a Ski-doo and my first why is I dont like their appearence the other thing I dont like with them is that they have tendencies of grenading (dont see yet on 800 e-tecs) and the stupid belt problem.

But my point from the beginning is still 98 SRX 600 or 700 had a shitty engine.

 

[136monoshock]

you should ride what you like. There is no need to pile on the other OEM's just don't buy there product. They all have issues. i can list issues for all four brands.

 

[Elton Buss]

pwa, for your information i did not know the crank was bad until the end of the season. I do know that was one of the best two strokes i have ever had the pleasure to own. And another point is the engine was never in danger of destroying itself. The motor would just show increased vibration. When the sled was taken to my dealer for it's 500 mile service. they checked the run out and yamaha repaired it . So call me STUPID!!!!

 

[Chasx7]

I give Yamaha alot of credit for taking care of the cranks on the 1998 SRX's. My bud has an 02 800 Polaris that snapped the crank right at the driven clutch. Polaris didn't help him one bit and this was happening to alot of 800's that year. He ended up paying about 1100 bucks to buy a new set of cases and having the upgraded bearing mod done. I lost alot of respect for Polaris over this.