Gone from Rev to Nytro??

[revster]

I'm looking for a now BS assessment from guys that have gone from a Rev to a Nytro. I went from a 97 Vmax SX to two Revs back to back and currently on an 07 MXZ X-RS that has been 440ized (all parts the XRS was missing from factory.)

My riding is about 75% off trail, ditches, drifts back country lots of jumping and playing in the powder. Then once a year we extend out tracks and go to the mountains.

I'm looking for guys that have made the jump to a nytro from a REV and what their thoughts are.

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

 

[Goddo]

I haven't gone from one to the other, but have ridden both and own a Nytro.

From the sounds of things, you have a very tough machine. I've seen the XRS go through things that you'd only see on slednecks and still run like nothing happened. I wouldn't expect that kind of durability from a Nytro. I'm not saying this because the Nytro isn't well built, but you have a very light and well braced banger sled and although Yamaha is touting the Nytro as a 4S ditch banger, I think most would agree that it is not.

The Nytro is a 4 stroke dressed up like a 2 stroke. It has outstanding power and torque. An excellent ride (when set up correctly) and does have the ability to launch off some smaller booters or overhangs. I wouldn't expect to be jumping 30 foot gaps with it at least not without some suspension and bracing upgrades.

One big issue that the true ditch bangers face is that the sled can leak its oil into the air box when rolled over. If you are a true banger, you know that roll over are common and losing 50% of your oil into the air box can end a good powder day in a hurry.

I'm not saying that the Nytro can't be a ditch banger, but if you want to compare it to an XRS as a straight up banger, I don't think it's fair. I've yet to see a stock sled like the XRS...Hard a coffin nail...Now if only the shorty had the 800R...

You asked for no BS, and thats about as BS free as I can be. I have a Nytro and like to ditch bang, but I consider myself only a mild banger. I might throw out a scattered 20 footer or decent drop, but for the most part, I'm watching when the boys are hitting 40 foot gaps because I know that I'm too heavy, and that my Nytro won't last long with that kind of treatment. It's just not ready for that out of the box.

Nikolai might disagree with me though....check out some of his big hits from last year...But I'm sure he'd also tell you there is a reason he's doing so much modding this past summer.

 

[SledFreak]

You definetly need the Nytro FX RTX SE. It's a little more calibrated for rougher riding and has a little better bracing.

 

[stock]

I also came off the rev and for trail riding not much difference after I changed ski's but off trail the # is a factor. I put on a 1.75 track witch is what is on my rev and when the snow gets deep 2'or more It is not as fun to ride off trail as a rev . The rider position is very similar (I have a 5" riser)and suspension is pretty good also.If I rode 75% off trail I would go with S.D. JMO

 

[revster]

I haven't gone from one to the other, but have ridden both and own a Nytro.

From the sounds of things, you have a very tough machine. I've seen the XRS go through things that you'd only see on slednecks and still run like nothing happened. I wouldn't expect that kind of durability from a Nytro. I'm not saying this because the Nytro isn't well built, but you have a very light and well braced banger sled and although Yamaha is touting the Nytro as a 4S ditch banger, I think most would agree that it is not.

The Nytro is a 4 stroke dressed up like a 2 stroke. It has outstanding power and torque. An excellent ride (when set up correctly) and does have the ability to launch off some smaller booters or overhangs. I wouldn't expect to be jumping 30 foot gaps with it at least not without some suspension and bracing upgrades.

One big issue that the true ditch bangers face is that the sled can leak its oil into the air box when rolled over. If you are a true banger, you know that roll over are common and losing 50% of your oil into the air box can end a good powder day in a hurry.

I'm not saying that the Nytro can't be a ditch banger, but if you want to compare it to an XRS as a straight up banger, I don't think it's fair. I've yet to see a stock sled like the XRS...Hard a coffin nail...Now if only the shorty had the 800R...

You asked for no BS, and thats about as BS free as I can be. I have a Nytro and like to ditch bang, but I consider myself only a mild banger. I might throw out a scattered 20 footer or decent drop, but for the most part, I'm watching when the boys are hitting 40 foot gaps because I know that I'm too heavy, and that my Nytro won't last long with that kind of treatment. It's just not ready for that out of the box.

Nikolai might disagree with me though....check out some of his big hits from last year...But I'm sure he'd also tell you there is a reason he's doing so much modding this past summer.

Well you hit the nail on the head. I'm not getting stupid big air, no where near the pros and not as big as Nikolai either. But roll overs are another matter, they are part of my daily routine. LOL.

 

[revster]

You definetly need the Nytro FX RTX SE. It's a little more calibrated for rougher riding and has a little better bracing.

I agree I checked it out at Haydays looked great. Some extra bracing for sure but the rep told me it's not as strong as the sno-x sled. But I think the suspension would be strong enough for me, I'm more worried about the first time I flip it will the plastic be destroyed?

Are there many guys on here that are getting factory racers? It'd be nice to pick someone practice sled up at the end of the season.

 

[revster]

I also came off the rev and for trail riding not much difference after I changed ski's but off trail the # is a factor. I put on a 1.75 track witch is what is on my rev and when the snow gets deep 2'or more It is not as fun to ride off trail as a rev . The rider position is very similar (I have a 5" riser)and suspension is pretty good also.If I rode 75% off trail I would go with S.D. JMO

Thanks for the feedback.

We have an attak at the farm I took it out for an 80 miles trail day which also included about 20 miles of ditches (ungroomed). I loved it on the trails I had no trouble keeping up with all the Revs and XPs I was riding with, but in the ditches and drifts it did not feel good at all. I realize the Nytro is a step closer to the Rev I just haven't had a chance to ride one yet.

 

[lucky_7]

I came off an 03 rev, and for the type of riding I do, they are similar. I trail ride 100% of the time, and the only time I go 'off trail' is when I missed a turn! My rev was very good on the trails after I had all of the suspension updated and replaced the skis with C&A's. The Nytro (RTX) was okay last year, but not nearly as predictable as my rev. I just had the shocks redone and replaced my skis with Curves, so hopefully it will be better.

As far as the plastic is concerned, I think it is on par with everything else out there.

As someone else said, you should really get an SE if you are going to get a Nytro. Yami learned a lot last year, as is expected from a first year sled.

 

[TurboJamie]

I haven't gone from one to the other, but have ridden both and own a Nytro.

From the sounds of things, you have a very tough machine. I've seen the XRS go through things that you'd only see on slednecks and still run like nothing happened. I wouldn't expect that kind of durability from a Nytro. I'm not saying this because the Nytro isn't well built, but you have a very light and well braced banger sled and although Yamaha is touting the Nytro as a 4S ditch banger, I think most would agree that it is not.

The Nytro is a 4 stroke dressed up like a 2 stroke. It has outstanding power and torque. An excellent ride (when set up correctly) and does have the ability to launch off some smaller booters or overhangs. I wouldn't expect to be jumping 30 foot gaps with it at least not without some suspension and bracing upgrades.

One big issue that the true ditch bangers face is that the sled can leak its oil into the air box when rolled over. If you are a true banger, you know that roll over are common and losing 50% of your oil into the air box can end a good powder day in a hurry.

I'm not saying that the Nytro can't be a ditch banger, but if you want to compare it to an XRS as a straight up banger, I don't think it's fair. I've yet to see a stock sled like the XRS...Hard a coffin nail...Now if only the shorty had the 800R...

You asked for no BS, and thats about as BS free as I can be. I have a Nytro and like to ditch bang, but I consider myself only a mild banger. I might throw out a scattered 20 footer or decent drop, but for the most part, I'm watching when the boys are hitting 40 foot gaps because I know that I'm too heavy, and that my Nytro won't last long with that kind of treatment. It's just not ready for that out of the box.

Nikolai might disagree with me though....check out some of his big hits from last year...But I'm sure he'd also tell you there is a reason he's doing so much modding this past summer.

Well you hit the nail on the head. I'm not getting stupid big air, no where near the pros and not as big as Nikolai either. But roll overs are another matter, they are part of my daily routine. LOL.

I think you and I tend to ride in the same manner, I had an RTX but made my way back to an xp renegade so far it suites the offtrail as well as ontrail needs for me perfectly. Like others have said and no machine is bullet proof, the rev is a little more reziliant in taking a beating. Not that some guys have not abused their nytro's and lived to tell about it. If powerlines, big drops, off trail jumping, boondocking etc is the type of riding you do I don't feel you would be happy on a nytro. That being said the engine is a different story wish we could get something like that on our side in the mid 400 lb range!

 

[clicker_clit]

I also had two Revs before trading to an 06 nytro and now to my 08 rtx. I would say it is a toss up on which sled is better. I like them both very much. My friend had a xrs800 and I personally think it is the sharpest looking sled ever manufactured. Both the XRS and and RTX have good shocks. The RTX SE does have better shock by far with the floats all the way around. If you were comparing any other ski-doo to the Nytro I would go with the nytro. The XRS has better shocks than you can get on any 08-09 skidoo. The only concern I would have with the XRS is engine durability as do most people that have switch to the fourstroke motor. Other than that it is total preference. I do prefer the ski-doo in off trail deep powder because they are easier to keep on top of the snow. The overall ride between the XRS and RTX are pretty much the same. You sit on them the same, they manuver pretty much the same. The RTX corners better on flat corners, but the XRS corners better in powder because it stays afloat easier on the snow. The XRS water skips much easier since the RTX has a tendency to build up ice in the tunnel and gets weighed down easily. If your trading for a newer ski-doo dont because you will never replace the shocks on the XRS. If you want decent shocks you have to go with the yamaha. The overall power between the two is pretty similar as well but the XRS most likely has a little more top end and the RTX will have a little more through the mid range. I will say it again though the XRS is an extremely sharp sled. Ski-doo really did some cool graphics on that one.

 

[revster]

I also had two Revs before trading to an 06 nytro and now to my 08 rtx. I would say it is a toss up on which sled is better. I like them both very much. My friend had a xrs800 and I personally think it is the sharpest looking sled ever manufactured. Both the XRS and and RTX have good shocks. The RTX SE does have better shock by far with the floats all the way around. If you were comparing any other ski-doo to the Nytro I would go with the nytro. The XRS has better shocks than you can get on any 08-09 skidoo. The only concern I would have with the XRS is engine durability as do most people that have switch to the fourstroke motor. Other than that it is total preference. I do prefer the ski-doo in off trail deep powder because they are easier to keep on top of the snow. The overall ride between the XRS and RTX are pretty much the same. You sit on them the same, they manuver pretty much the same. The RTX corners better on flat corners, but the XRS corners better in powder because it stays afloat easier on the snow. The XRS water skips much easier since the RTX has a tendency to build up ice in the tunnel and gets weighed down easily. If your trading for a newer ski-doo dont because you will never replace the shocks on the XRS. If you want decent shocks you have to go with the yamaha. The overall power between the two is pretty similar as well but the XRS most likely has a little more top end and the RTX will have a little more through the mid range. I will say it again though the XRS is an extremely sharp sled. Ski-doo really did some cool graphics on that one.

Thanks for the feedback.

Those sharp plastic are hanging on the wall in my garage so I don't wreck them.LOL

I'm riding the XRS this year for sure. But I wouldn't be deciding between the XRS and a Nytro. It would likely be between a Nytro RTX SE and a 600 RS race sled. (likely with an 800r dropped in)...or maybe an IQ 600 RR.

The one thing that I do no doubt is the Nytros engine. I'm not worried about the power it has or anything like that. I'm totally sold on the sled in that department. To me a sled that I can beat the crap out of with a reliable engine is pure gold.

I'll have to see If I can take a Nytro for a ride this year!

 

[clicker_clit]

Don't get the 600 race sled from ski-doo. That is actually what my freind has now and it runs like complete #*$&@. He is having alot of problems with the carbs. He also tried the 800 conversion a few years back on a 440 race sled and it turned out blowing up. You may be able to make that idea work though. The 600 Polaris is hunk of junk as well. I have another friend with one of those and it rides like a brick, and also leaks oil and antifreeze. Buy a regular 800 ski-doo if anything and buy the race shocks on the side.

 

[TurboJamie]

Don't get the 600 race sled from ski-doo. That is actually what my freind has now and it runs like complete poop. He is having alot of problems with the carbs. He also tried the 800 conversion a few years back on a 440 race sled and it turned out blowing up. You may be able to make that idea work though. The 600 Polaris is hunk of junk as well. I have another friend with one of those and it rides like a brick, and also leaks oil and antifreeze. Buy a regular 800 ski-doo if anything and buy the race shocks on the side.

Your best to buy an adreneline and get a good set of race shocks for it.

 

[Deadman]

Why? so you don't get any frame gussets or anything?

 

[revster]

Don't get the 600 race sled from ski-doo. That is actually what my freind has now and it runs like complete poop. He is having alot of problems with the carbs. He also tried the 800 conversion a few years back on a 440 race sled and it turned out blowing up. You may be able to make that idea work though. The 600 Polaris is hunk of junk as well. I have another friend with one of those and it rides like a brick, and also leaks oil and antifreeze. Buy a regular 800 ski-doo if anything and buy the race shocks on the side.

I'm not worried about that at all I've built a few Revs from the ground up and I'm in the middle of another right now. I'd be buying an 09 race sled as well not the 08. I don't buy first year model sleds (anymore). I likely won't run the 600 I'd be running the 800r which will be a 3rd year engine, so the bugs will be worked out. LOL