Got Spanked Today by an '09 XP 800

[big_red1a]

Does the 09 xp 800r not have a chip to burn off? At what mileage? Blue dave is your apex a shorty? I think that the 136 has a bit better hook up but still needs some work to get the power to the ground.

 

[whitedust1]

kinger 08 Xp 800r peaky compared to 4 hole Apex 4s. No broad pull like Yam 150. 800r about what I exspected from current 800 2s engine. Not bad just different. Don't know any 2s that has power bands like Yam 4s in my experince.

 

[tomanytoyz]

about how many (sled lenghts) did he have at about 200ft?was he pulling away/did you stay with him after he got the jump?same for the rolling start,what was that like,how fast were you guys going?sorry for all the questions,i just want more info.being light and being nailed like that is going to be hard to get him off the start.run only a gallon of gas in your sled,make sure his full then see what happens LOL!good luck.

 

[Blue Dave]

I purposely showed up with an almost empty gas tank. His XP had a couple hundred miles on it. I asked him about the Ski-Doo computer controlled "de-tuning" during break in and he said that was just a rumor.

It seemed like just a traction issue. He would jump out about 60 ft from a dead stop and about 30 ft from a rolling start. Once I hooked up he was not pulling away any more and I actually felt like I could have caught him if we would have raced a long enough distance.

I rode his XP and I will say it hooked up like nothing I have ever ridden. Very light feeling and great throttle response. It pulled real hard at any speed getting the ski's light any time you want. He even had his limiter strap pulled all the way up to try to keep the ski's down.

We are going riding tomorrow on a wide hard packed river that should allow my Apex to give him a much better race.

 

[journeyman]

We are going riding tomorrow on a wide hard packed river that should allow my Apex to give him a much better race.

Better luck tomorrow!!

 

[BlueByYou2000]

Wait till you race a 1000 X-Fire. Those XPs arent even in the same league. I rode one yesterday that had a SLP pipe, boondocker box (SLP claims 193 hp) and man that thing pulled nice. Not like a Turbo sled, but for a N/A sled, the just rip.

 

[SledFreak]

Wait till you race a 1000 X-Fire. Those XPs arent even in the same league. I rode one yesterday that had a SLP pipe, boondocker box (SLP claims 193 hp) and man that thing pulled nice. Not like a Turbo sled, but for a N/A sled, the just rip.

Matt, he must have had the y-pipe as well... I hope they get the power to the ground better than the F1000... From what I hear Cat pulled back the timing by 4 degrees on the 1000 motor for 09....

 

[Chiroguy]

i have a 2008 apex ltx my friend's 2001 xc 700 was even with me off the line, but steadily pulled away at 70plus. he was studded, i was not. top end on speedo i saw was 108mph. is that right? my 99 700 triple would hit 115.

 

[Blue Dave]

chiroguy,

Unless that XC 700 has a turbo you shouldn't be behind him at any point in a race. My other riding buddy has an '02 XC 700 and when we lined up once it was not even close. He does not even try to race me anymore.

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[Blue Dave]

Well, back to the original subject. We ran the Apex & the '09 XP 800 R on the river yesterday and it was a little different story. I still couldn't overcome his holeshot from a dead stop even on a perfect "Apex surface". On hard packed snow he still killed me out of the hole but after the initial jump he couldn't pull away from me and we stayed locked together about 40 feet apart until he would "let off" at about 100 MPH.

When we would both punch it at about 50 MPH side by side I would pull away from him and he couldn't match my top end (I saw 124 on the "dream meter").

Now for the part of the story that you guys are going to love. At the end of the night I ended up beating him all the way back to his cabin by the length of a tow rope. Yep, that's right, the '09 XP 800 engine blew up while we were running the river at about 100 MPH. Locked up solid, couldn't even pull the rope.

Then I got the truth out of him on the modifications. In addition to the clutching work that I already knew about, he had the head shaved as well. I am not sure how much the shaved head was helping him in the races but I am sure that it helped the engine blow up!

I just wish that I had a picture of his new XP 800 being pulled by my good ol' reliable Apex!

 

[Swiss Sledder]

Now for the part of the story that you guys are going to love. At the end of the night I ended up beating him all the way back to his cabin by the length of a tow rope. Yep, that's right, the '09 XP 800 engine blew up while we were running the river at about 100 MPH. Locked up solid, couldn't even pull the rope.

Classic! Nice one.

 

[SledFreak]

Well, back to the original subject. We ran the Apex & the '09 XP 800 R on the river yesterday and it was a little different story. I still couldn't overcome his holeshot from a dead stop even on a perfect "Apex surface". On hard packed snow he still killed me out of the hole but after the initial jump he couldn't pull away from me and we stayed locked together about 40 feet apart until he would "let off" at about 100 MPH.

When we would both punch it at about 50 MPH side by side I would pull away from him and he couldn't match my top end (I saw 124 on the "dream meter").

Now for the part of the story that you guys are going to love. At the end of the night I ended up beating him all the way back to his cabin by the length of a tow rope. Yep, that's right, the '09 XP 800 engine blew up while we were running the river at about 100 MPH. Locked up solid, couldn't even pull the rope.

Then I got the truth out of him on the modifications. In addition to the clutching work that I already knew about, he had the head shaved as well. I am not sure how much the shaved head was helping him in the races but I am sure that it helped the engine blow up!

I just wish that I had a picture of his new XP 800 being pulled by my good ol' reliable Apex!

That's beautiful....

 

[whitedust1]

He will have a hard time living that one down. Also costly no warranty on that mod. I hate 2s been there done that.....just not worth it. Yam 4s the BEST!!

 

[Blue Dave]

Yes, he will have a hard time living this one down. He will be hearing me telling that story for many years to come!

Since the Doo dealer did the mods my buddy thinks that they will warranty the engine repair. I told him good luck wth that!

 

[journeyman]

Well, back to the original subject. We ran the Apex & the '09 XP 800 R on the river yesterday and it was a little different story. I still couldn't overcome his holeshot from a dead stop even on a perfect "Apex surface". On hard packed snow he still killed me out of the hole but after the initial jump he couldn't pull away from me and we stayed locked together about 40 feet apart until he would "let off" at about 100 MPH.

When we would both punch it at about 50 MPH side by side I would pull away from him and he couldn't match my top end (I saw 124 on the "dream meter").

Now for the part of the story that you guys are going to love. At the end of the night I ended up beating him all the way back to his cabin by the length of a tow rope. Yep, that's right, the '09 XP 800 engine blew up while we were running the river at about 100 MPH. Locked up solid, couldn't even pull the rope.

Then I got the truth out of him on the modifications. In addition to the clutching work that I already knew about, he had the head shaved as well. I am not sure how much the shaved head was helping him in the races but I am sure that it helped the engine blow up!

I just wish that I had a picture of his new XP 800 being pulled by my good ol' reliable Apex!

OK ..........I just gathered myself from my puddle of tears of laughter........WOW!! This is a classic!! PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!