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Just installed a new Ice Attak 1.22 on my LTX-LE. Wondering if anyone who did the same on their Winders noticed the same as me.
Once my original track was off I noticed quite a bit of black rubber rub from track on the tunnel coolers. It starts about 1 'after front cooler and is probably 2' in length.
Looking at this new Ice Attak stud pattern, it has some studs that will run very close to these.
Has anyone experienced cooler gouging or scratching from these at the rub spots, or worse, leaking coolant!
Once my original track was off I noticed quite a bit of black rubber rub from track on the tunnel coolers. It starts about 1 'after front cooler and is probably 2' in length.
Looking at this new Ice Attak stud pattern, it has some studs that will run very close to these.
Has anyone experienced cooler gouging or scratching from these at the rub spots, or worse, leaking coolant!
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I haven't looked at mine but compared to the 1.75 I replaced I would think there should be no problem. The studs on these tracks don't bite very deep. Did you put the rear tunnel protectors on?
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I didn't run the original track more than a couple miles. I'm thinking there won't be an issue with this track.
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I didn't run the original track more than a couple miles. I'm thinking there won't be an issue with this track.
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You did get the tunnel protectors. I thought you did.
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I did put rear cooler protectors. Really appreciated the advise from someone on this site to set the self taping screws prior to installation. Man they are tough. Put each protector in a vise to set those little screws, but could not believe how much torque it took. Thought I was going to break the screw or strip out the Torx head.
Shall finish the track install tomorrow and plan on spinning the track on the stand just to make sure. Those tunnel coolers are very thin aluminum and some of those studs have a very narrow double pattern right in the window!
Probably worrying for nothing, but looking at those coolers, they would really suck to change or take out for repair.
Shall finish the track install tomorrow and plan on spinning the track on the stand just to make sure. Those tunnel coolers are very thin aluminum and some of those studs have a very narrow double pattern right in the window!
Probably worrying for nothing, but looking at those coolers, they would really suck to change or take out for repair.
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They won't touch.I've had 5 Ice Attaks on Procross chassis now. Without the weight of studs the track stretches very little. I run mine on the loose side and have never seen a mark on it.
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Yep I got them and installed them when swapping out the track.Joe
You did get the tunnel protectors. I thought you did.
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I would think that if the pre studded tracks are going to be a problem then a track with regular studs will shred the exchangers.
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I swapped out the Ripsaw for an Ice Attack XT, my dealer also recommended adding the tunnel protectors for "just in case". Dealer did the work, and used an epoxy to install the tunnel protectors, no screws. 160 miles so far on the Ice Attack, good choice for me. (LTX-LE)
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Ok I just checked out my tunnel to see if there might be a problem. The heat exchangers are also the tunnel protectors on these sleds. They are flat but if you look closely the exchanger that carries the coolant is round. On mine you can see where the little studs just scratch the very outer edge of the flat section. The reason is that those studs are 1.25 inches apart and the protectors are also 1.25 inches wide. From what I'm seeing there is no way those studs are anywhere deep enough to get anywhere near the actual exchanger. The track will make contact on the protector well before the studs will even damage the outer edge of the exchanger. Those little studs would need to stick out about .75 of an inch to get deep enough to hit the exchanger where the coolant is and even if they were that long I think they would still miss it. When you go back out to finish the track exchange look at the outside of the protectors and you will see how far away from the actual coolant carrying exchanger those little studs are.Just installed a new Ice Attak 1.22 on my LTX-LE. Wondering if anyone who did the same on their Winders noticed the same as me.
Once my original track was off I noticed quite a bit of black rubber rub from track on the tunnel coolers. It starts about 1 'after front cooler and is probably 2' in length.
Looking at this new Ice Attak stud pattern, it has some studs that will run very close to these.
Has anyone experienced cooler gouging or scratching from these at the rub spots, or worse, leaking coolant!
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Ok I just checked out my tunnel to see if there might be a problem. The heat exchangers are also the tunnel protectors on these sleds. They are flat but if you look closely the exchanger that carries the coolant is round. On mine you can see where the little studs just scratch the very outer edge of the flat section. The reason is that those studs are 1.25 inches apart and the protectors are also 1.25 inches wide. From what I'm seeing there is no way those studs are anywhere deep enough to get anywhere near the actual exchanger. The track will make contact on the protector well before the studs will even damage the outer edge of the exchanger. Those little studs would need to stick out about .75 of an inch to get deep enough to hit the exchanger where the coolant is and even if they were that long I think they would still miss it. When you go back out to finish the track exchange look at the outside of the protectors and you will see how far away from the actual coolant carrying exchanger those little studs are.
Yes we ( buddy and I) looked at the shape of the tunnel protector/ coolers and measured the narrow stud pattern on the windows, and the coolers were measured. If track stays centered there should be a bit of clearance from round portion of coolers, but it is close and I expect to find some gouging on fat edge(grooved flat). Extrovert drivers are tight side to side so it should hold it straight. Have had issues in past with studded track problems, exhaust, rear coolers, front coolers they are a lot of work to change out during the season, but that is why I am trying this style track but still looking at all during change out, and they are too close for comfort! But whereas no problems reported I should be OK then, hopefully. Thanks for your explanation of the cooler shape and where the narrow pattern studs would hit. I started explaining that in my original post but thought I would be confusing people, so I erased a bunch and kept it simple.. some of us struggle with turning type into words! Ha Ha
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I wouldn't expect any type of deep gouging anywhere with these studs. They just aren't long enough to do any real damage unlike real studs. The marks on my protectors are just scratches and I wouldn't think they would go very deep at all. To be honest I don't think it is possible for these studs to get anywhere near the actual round exchangers but they will mark up the very outer edges of the flat protectors.
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On this style track the studs are on the lug, and the lugs we are talking about are in the window area. The aluminum on coolers are what, 1/16 - 1/8" thick and studs stick out of lug about the same. Manufacturer should have a wider pattern for those sets of studs and with that I would have no worries about damage to my coolers!!
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If you are worried take a slider cut it to the length of the protector and rivet it on there. The little studs will chew into the plastic the 1/8" or whatever it is and nothing else will happen. After that 1/8 the rubber will be in contact with the protectors. Easy $15 if not free fix.
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I agree. My dealer was concerned with the same thing when installing the track. They insisted on putting tunnel protectors on the rear cooler and after it was all buttoned up noticed the tips in line with the cooler lines. 600 miles now and not one mark on either the protectors or the coolant lines. When I look down the length of the track it really doesn't look like there's any way for the tips to contact the cooler lines, and the finned aluminum would be a good protector if they actually did. I'm not concerned one bit.I wouldn't expect any type of deep gouging anywhere with these studs. They just aren't long enough to do any real damage unlike real studs. The marks on my protectors are just scratches and I wouldn't think they would go very deep at all. To be honest I don't think it is possible for these studs to get anywhere near the actual round exchangers but they will mark up the very outer edges of the flat protectors.
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