JRE vs. Skinz/ZBros

[Bamboo]

you guys might to have a look at these

http://www.ty4stroke.com/viewtopic.php?t=124629

 

[yzviper366]

The arm was sheared and the joint was bent

 

[m.schuey7]

Cost

Does anyone know what the price difference is between the A arm upgrades or the JRE Spindle?

 

[fxnytrortxkid]

Skinz arms 1000 plus shock upgrade zbroz is 1000 and jre is 400

 

[mnman309]

I put on almost 750 miles on my JRE spindles and really like how it handles and I have an 08 rtx. Just pump up the fox shoxs to 80-100lbs.

 

[bluesman]

I sure wish there was an out of the box upgrade to completely stabilize the Twisty trail and high speed trail handling of the XTX Nytro. Are one of these solutions the way to go?

 

[fxnytrortxkid]

They all will fix them in their way. I went with jre spindles for several reasons.... Factory spindles were weak an poor geometry. These fixed that. My factory spindles were bent. And even if I changed arms new stronger spindles were needed IMO. They were also cheapest solutuon an work awesome. 0 ski lift great handling and I have ridden in rough rutted trails an not bottomed the sled out from ride hight. And marks been very interactive asking how they are if I feel they need a change or how my set up is an offers his feelings on making it perfect and accepts the opinions given to him.

For the xtx he includes a rear suspension update to lower it to proper rake

 

[m.schuey7]

I have been doing research on all 3 solutions.
It does seem Like Mark (JRE) was very interested in finding out which sled I rode and what shocks I was using so that he could make suggestions on my setup. not the same service I got from the other two.

 

[nytrozula]

ZBroz is good but their customer service is BRUTAL! And that's being nice. No directions with the kit and very hard to reach them to talk.

 

[MrSled]

Ill be honest.. the JRE is great for the average trail guy but the over all lowering of the sled and the track tension adjustablility is not that great in my eyes. I clipped a rock with one of the lower A-Arm and the sled over all would drag the running boards and submarine the front end when off throttle in the off trail conditions.

As far as customer service, I hope he is treating you guys better then he treated TY... I will never do business with the guy again unless he come back and apologizes for trying to shaft the site.

He should be so lucky that I will even allow the product to be talked about. Im sorry for this post but it had to be said.

 

[ViperTurboPete]

Mr. Sled....I hope I don't get shot down or banned for talking about JRE lol. I totally understand that it is between you (TY) and him.

I have JRE spindles on my MTX. I didn't do the suspension requirements other than tucking it in by one inch in the rear by drilling an extra hole in the drop down bracket. MTX drop down brackets are different than XTX so I could not do the suspension adjustments the instructions called for.

Yes, the front end is low..., but I have said this many times before that my 08 MTX was downright dangerous to drive. I would fly down the lake with drifts fearing for my life. I remember riding with a friend of mine and his wife. He rides a doo 800 Summit 146 xp and she was on a 600 Rev SDI. I could not keep up with his wife! I was on the verge of selling the sled because it was just nuts. So, I put the JRE spindles on and the handling improved dramatically. Yes, I bent a lower a arm during the Christmas holidays by hitting a pressure ridge. I think it would have bent regardless what spindle I had on. With my front end being 2" lower I find the rear of my track is a little off the floor. I was a little concerned because if I lift the front bumper the track would be even on the floor. Anyway, I find the sled turns on a dime and it is unreal how tight I can take a corner. Not sure how this affects anything, but the track hooks up well on hardpack, the sled charges pretty hard in the powder.

I want my sled to do it all with no in between. I don't want to look at my sled as a crossover sled. A crossover does a little bit of both. If I want to ride hard on the trail, I can. The only limiting factor I have on the trail is the narrow ski stance. If I want to play in the deep powder and do some hill climbs etc...I can.

In the future I want to try out the Mountaintech A arms. I really want to feel the benefit of a 3" forward design and being able to adjust camber AND castor. I plan on using my JRE spindles to compliment that also. I do still have my 08 stock spindles, but again I like being low to the ground.

All the products out there are good. Skinz and Zbroz are proven...I haven't heard much of any negative reviews. They just cost more money. JRE is much less in price and again there are many more positive reviews than negative.

Not having experienced different types of a arms, I would think comparing spindles to a arms are like comparing apples to oranges. The JRE spindles to me lowered the centre of gravity which in turn enhanced handling. The a arms I guess enhance handling in a different way by moving the spindles forward. I guess every little bit helps.

My doo buddies tell me that I have spent more money on my sled than their's are worth since they haven't had to touch a thing on them. I guess that is the drawback of owning a Nytro, but I still much prefer riding my Nytro over my Doo 600 etec Renegade XP.

 

[korgull]

I have the Jre trail king on my xtx but I did not do the rear mod, because I did the full star suspension modd except for the front lowering.
This combination works very wll, the rear geometri you get with the star suspension combined with the benefit of the 1 3/8 inch drop of the jre spindle is absolutly superb, I had the chance to have Robert from star suspension to study these for the best combination possible. The onluy thing I had to change is the strap position I was at the last hole I had to change 1 hole to put back presure on the skis

 

[m.schuey7]

I'm new to this site and dont want to get banned as it seems to be a good tool.

I talked with Mark at JRE quite a bit over the last two days he was very helpfull. I ended up ordering a set of spindles from him. Maybe I can talk about them here maybe not but from what it sounds like from the people that have them they work. and they are affordibled.

 

[MrSled]

No one is getting banned. The point was that I should not allow the topic with his front end to be talked about after the bull crap he did to TY. But I guess a little backing from the users is to much to ask for. To bad it's not a bad product. But it's life on our site is coming to an end. Sorry but these kind of 2 faced business need to step up and respect the websites that help make them what they are.

 

[cannondale27]

Just so you know the guys and Jre who had them on did not take bottoming into account. With his spindles on a Phazer it will hit the ground at lowest point which is chaincase. I have a set and it is a dangerous setup for anyone who will bottom the front suspension. I repeatedly asked about this issue when guys with Phazers started to put them on and was never given a answer other than pics of guys measuring in the wrong place which is deceiving.