Thanks for the replies. Seems like if I can get my hands on an LE that might be the way to go. I'm sure the SE is more than fine for me. But who doesn't like more than is needed? I feel when I'm with the guys we still push pretty hard on the trails. That being said my wife got into it last year and that slows me down when she goes with. No complaints about that though. She enjoys it more than me now I think.