Liquivac or drain oil tank

[#1Wolverine]

I change my oil and filter every year, oil sometimes twice. Anyone thought about useing a liquivac to replace oil from the tank a few times during season or just draining tank, just curious I like my oil clean. I know you wont get all the particals off the bottom of engine. And if this would cause any air problems in the system? I would think that it would suck air out along with oil.

 

[darv]

that all my dealer does is suck oil out of tank & change filter

 

[#1Wolverine]

He pulls the drain plug on the motor, I assume you forgot that part.

 

[Super Sled]

I don't see how this would work very well, especially if you like your oil to really be clean....

You might get the oil out of the overflow tank on the side, but how will you get it out of the crank? Plus, you will leave lots of the crap in there that a proper change will eliminate.

Besides, it's really easy to quick drain the oil from the crank below (remove bash plate if applicable, remove 5 bolts to underside compartment, and remove the drain plug) and draining the overflow tank is even easier. Takes like 10 minutes to complete once you have the sled on a lift.

Doing it any other way is a half a$$ job IMHO and won't get the job done as well. Especially if you are picky. Count me in that geroup as well.

Now, let's talk about the stupid location of the oil filter, shall we.....

 

[#1Wolverine]

I don't see how this would work very well, especially if you like your oil to really be clean....

You might get the oil out of the overflow tank on the side, but how will you get it out of the crank? Plus, you will leave lots of the crap in there that a proper change will eliminate.

Besides, it's really easy to quick drain the oil from the crank below (remove bash plate if applicable, remove 5 bolts to underside compartment, and remove the drain plug) and draining the overflow tank is even easier. Takes like 10 minutes to complete once you have the sled on a lift.

Doing it any other way is a half a$$ job IMHO and won't get the job done as well. Especially if you are picky. Count me in that geroup as well.

Now, let's talk about the stupid location of the oil filter, shall we.....

I assume most people change there oil once a year. I just thought this would make it cleaner throughout the year, with better viscosity. I am not saying not do a correct oil change when needed.

 

[SXlover]

I plan to change my oil every other year...and filter every 4 years.

I'm running the Amsoil 0W-40.

 

[#1Wolverine]

I hope your just kidding right.

 

[Mighty]

I hope your just kidding right.

He probably isn't. Yamaha recomends the filter be changed every 12,000 and a good quality oil will easily last thousands of miles as long as it isn't contaminated.

On to your question. Not only do you want to pull both the drain plug on the engine block but you should pull the entire assembly out of the bottom of the oil tank that the screw screws into. There is a screen in there and you might be surprised what it has caught. On a couple of my apex's there was dried up silicon sealant chunks that I'm sure was there from the original engine assembly partially clogging the screen.

 

[Super Sled]

Good point Mighty. I just changed my oil a few weeks ago and when I checked the screen on the bottom there was chunks of something around that screen. Seemed like some soft material/ debris of some sorts. I didn't inspect it close enough to identify the material, but maybe the same thing. makes sense that's exactly what it was.

 

[#1Wolverine]

I don't see how this would work very well, especially if you like your oil to really be clean....

You might get the oil out of the overflow tank on the side, but how will you get it out of the crank? Plus, you will leave lots of the crap in there that a proper change will eliminate.

Besides, it's really easy to quick drain the oil from the crank below (remove bash plate if applicable, remove 5 bolts to underside compartment, and remove the drain plug) and draining the overflow tank is even easier. Takes like 10 minutes to complete once you have the sled on a lift.

Doing it any other way is a half a$$ job IMHO and won't get the job done as well. Especially if you are picky. Count me in that geroup as well.

Now, let's talk about the stupid location of the oil filter, shall we.....

I assume most people change there oil once a year. I just thought this would make it cleaner throughout the year, with better viscosity. I am not saying not do a correct oil change when needed.

Again I am not saying dont do a correct oil change if needed. What I am saying is maybe at 1500 to 2000 miles suck out oil or drain out tank and refill oil kinda like a refresher. I know I am anal but it seems to me the newer the oil the better viscosity from everything I have been reading on viscosity. And there is no way on gods green earth I would change my oil every other year or filter every four years. And I believe it says to do both every year or every 4000 miles on oil or 12000 on filter which ever comes first. Honestly correct me if I am wrong I have not looked at a manual in a couple years. Good idea on pulling entire assembly

 

[Super Sled]

Just use a good synthetic oil [I use Amsoil 0w40 for powersports] and unless you ride mile for mile with Nick Keller, you'll be fine with once a year oil changing. I typically change the oil filter at the same time every summer, although I didn't change it last summer but I did this year.

 

[#1Wolverine]

Just use a good synthetic oil [I use Amsoil 0w40 for powersports] and unless you ride mile for mile with Nick Keller, you'll be fine with once a year oil changing. I typically change the oil filter at the same time every summer, although I didn't change it last summer but I did this year.

I was using mobil 1 oil and filter on my apex and it started using oil at 3800 miles. Not saying it was the oil but I thought maybe I would go back to yamalube and yammie filter.

 

[darv]

start using a product call ring free

 

[sonds]

Amsoil high quality synthetic claim you can get 15,000 miles between oil changes, add on a oil filtration kit and you can go to 50,000.

This is on a car or truck but I would think 2 seasons with amsoil on a sled would be resonable.

 

[yamahas]

I change my oil and filter once a year no matter how much I used it. It gives me a chance to check everything else over as well.

Amsoil claims 15k or 1 year, what ever comes first on the car or truck oil, and says to follow manufactures instruction for the power sports.

Time also plays a factor in oil life.