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sj said:let's not knock.......sounds like he's just lending some ideas...his idea sounds solid...
Who's knockin'? Curious minds want to know whats going on!
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If your that curious give it a try and find out for yourselfs.
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rightarm said:If your that curious give it a try and find out for yourselfs.
I have the $100 plugs....BUT, I use them because I spray nitrous. That is the ONLY reason I use them.
They are NOT gaining me any performance otherwise.
Yamaha engineers spend millons on 'ram air' type stuff, so does Kawi, Suzuki, etc on the bikes. Do you really feel that you have found the correct spot on the front of the sled to create more velocity (ram air) of the incoming air?!!!
There may very well be a happy spot, but 1/2" over to the left or right and the air will pass right by at 100mph.
Also, just how fast is air travelling into your throttle bodies at 11000rpm? I'd guess at a greater speed than 100mph. Perhaps Hammer can dazzle us with some info on that?!!!!
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I have two slots that are 1/2"x4" and two that are 1/2"x5" cut out of the front side of the elevated portion of the stock air box. But even that is above or even behind the rubber boots on the throttle bodies.
So that isnt really ram-air, but it seams to make a difference. I am going to get a stock box and do testing soon.
MORE AIR< MORE FUEL< MORE POWER!
So that isnt really ram-air, but it seams to make a difference. I am going to get a stock box and do testing soon.
MORE AIR< MORE FUEL< MORE POWER!
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LOL!! I think there's a little more to it, than simply adding holes at the front!
But whatever turns your crank.
But whatever turns your crank.
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Really?
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rightarm said:Really?
I don't know why I am replying...but here goes...
What you have simply done is allow more air into your air box, which could have been achieved in many other ways.
What you don't have is RAM AIR!!!
Only until recently, regardless of how many bike pics you post up, really only Kawasaki has had a true functioning ram air....all other bikes didn't. There's a ton of wind tunnel research that goes into the process, and getting the air at the front of a vehicle to take the correct direction (into the air box) and pressurize the air box is tough!! Not that easy! Millions of dollars goes into the design of an air box.
Proving this has been done over and over in the bike world. Simply changing ram air tube sizes or shapes can really screw up airflow!!
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Whatever!
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rightarm said:Whatever!
Precisely why I wasn't gonna entertain you.
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Maybe you could just start clling it "cowl induction". I agree completely with 87gtNOS. Unless you can wind tunnel test for the optimum place and size(s) of all the openings, all you are doing is making it easier for "some" air to get in. I think you all would be surprised if someone were to make one with an opening facing the rear of the lid right at the base of the headlight. This would at least take advantage of the air that would potentially swirl at the base of the headlight.
Unless you could mount a full fleged scoop on the fron to your sled, you have a simple air induction system.
If you look back in time to the muscle car era, all the old Chevy's have scoops facing the windshield, Not to stir the pot, but its cool to see all the different ideas!!!
Unless you could mount a full fleged scoop on the fron to your sled, you have a simple air induction system.
If you look back in time to the muscle car era, all the old Chevy's have scoops facing the windshield, Not to stir the pot, but its cool to see all the different ideas!!!
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nate007 said:If you look back in time to the muscle car era, all the old Chevy's have scoops facing the windshield, Not to stir the pot, but its cool to see all the different ideas!!!
Thanks Nate. Same as with on my 90 Mach1, drilling 15 half inch holes in the lower front left of the windshield to allow more air at the air box inlet under there!
Rightarm, with your 'ramair', did you seal up the other holes in the air box to get it to 'pressurize'??
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