Much talked about mach z sidewinder race

[Upstater57]

When I bought my first turbo in 2014, I decided to break it in without studs bone stock. That sled was about 180hp. All it did was spin the track. After the break in, I went to 5 studs per bar like my old Tcats. That worked much better. LOL

 

[20/80]

LOL!!what do those doo boys pay you?Those electric taiga sleds must be pushing 300hp too I suppose

LOL... A little bit of chicken and rib sauce will deter the awful taste of crow.

 

[NYTurbo]

Yep and in 2017 the Apex guys thought they were faster too with their tanks

 

[20/80]

I think the Winder weighs as much as the Apex tank

 

[NYTurbo]

Lol

 

[1nc 2000]

The Mini Z sure has a big price tag.
Put that much money in a Sidewinder and it will be a beast everywhere!

 

[NYTurbo]

Mach Z and Winder probably gonna be close. However BRP made their ECU next to impossible for tuners to access so even if the Winder guy gets beat 100hp increase is only one phone call away.

 

[DMCTurbo]

Mach Z and Winder probably gonna be close. However BRP made their ECU next to impossible for tuners to access so even if the Winder guy gets beat 100hp increase is only one phone call away.

I see Hurricane has a stand alone ECU available.

 

[RAMSOMAIR]

I really don't know how much a tune for the Mach will benefit? Yes a little bit. But the thing is already pushing 16psi, not much room for reliable boost. Perhaps another 3-4 psi but will the internals support this?

 

[KnappAttack]

Winder vs. Apex again huh?

I think the Winder weighs as much as the Apex tank

Well not quite... Same source, same scales used by AmSnow Magazine over the years. (Real World, Real Weights, all full of fuel and fluids just like they get ridden) Some machine had stud packages some did not.

2017 Winder LTX-LE with studs Full of fluids and fuel. #671

2007 Attak, bare track no studs Full of fluids and fuel. #691

2011 Apex XTX w/power steering, with studs Full of fluids and fuel. #717


None the less, ALL these Yamaha's and Cats are heavy, much heavier than the Doo Four-Strokes are for sure. Thats one place they need to work on harder. Get the weights down to where the Doo's 900 turbos are at.

 

[NYTurbo]

I really don't know how much a tune for the Mach will benefit? Yes a little bit. But the thing is already pushing 16psi, not much room for reliable boost. Perhaps another 3-4 psi but will the internals support this?

No where near 998 levels but maybe another 50-60 hp

 

[KnappAttack]

No where near 998 levels but maybe another 50-60 hp

Not gonna happen without a larger turbo, intercooler, injectors and more then likely a different ECU, and I don't think the engine internals will take that kind of power.
At that point might as well put a Precision Motec setup on a 1200 and be the HP KING.

 

[NYTurbo]

Mach Z has a bigger turbo I thought ?

 

[Doc Harley]

Mach Z has a bigger turbo I thought ?

Precision measured the turbo inlet on the 900r. 1mm larger than 900t.
Found on YouTube....

 

[KnappAttack]

Mach Z has a bigger turbo I thought ?

It's 1mm bigger on the turbo intake is all vs. the t model. If they could get 25 HP from an actual tune on the Mach I'd be surprised. Its pretty much maxed as it is stock. The problem is the ECU is locked down tight and no-one to date has been able to get in and do any thing with it, and its been out for over one year already on the SxS model. Tuners are now buying a replacement ECU from someone for the new model and tuning it, so keep the stock one and replace it with an aftermarket ECU... No info on them yet other than that, but getting winder type power is not going to happen without better and expensive hard parts to go with it. So honestly, its going to be expensive to get winder type mod power with out spending close to 10K.