Must haves for the 2022 Sidewinder

[Mototown]

Riding my buddies Polaris VR1 , the dash with gps , trail map & group ride on trail maps is a must have for me to upgrade from my 2021 srx . Wondering if I'm ordering a 22 SRX ....lol

 

[fatchance]

I'd like to see more of the inherent issues fixed so when i replace my 17" Winder it doesn't demand as much attention. As far as upgrades lets start with more color choices, a stock 3" exhaust, a true 4th wheel kit, a bit more heat on the throttle and brake, multiple stock tunes, an upgraded primary that doesn't bind.......and the list goes on!

 

[KnappAttack]

I'd like to see more of the inherent issues fixed so when i replace my 17" Winder it doesn't demand as much attention. As far as upgrades lets start with more color choices, a stock 3" exhaust, a true 4th wheel kit, a bit more heat on the throttle and brake, multiple stock tunes, an upgraded primary that doesn't bind.......and the list goes on!

Here here!

I'd like to get a new sled and not have to fix the same old crap on the next one. Come on Textron/Yamaha fix the #*$&@ we all know and complain about! The driveline and the nagging Cat crap needs fixed!

 

[1nc 2000]

Pop rivets and self tapping screws again for $20,000.....

 

[RAMSOMAIR]

Riding my buddies Polaris VR1 , the dash with gps , trail map & group ride on trail maps is a must have for me to upgrade from my 2021 srx . Wondering if I'm ordering a 22 SRX ....lol

If this weather keeps up, you won’t need a 22. The 21 will only have 50 miles!

 

[Teamblue4]

How about a new Chassis! for 2022

 

[74Nitro]

Three maps from the factory is a real possibility. Not like it hasn't been done before(Vector, Skidoo Ace) and even some new pickup trucks have 5 stock!

 

[Wannaviper]

There are undoubtedly some issues that should be fixed at the factory, but at the risk of jinxing myself, I have to say that I have not experienced any of the serious issues I read about on this board. I have a 2019 Sidewinder LTX-DX with @ 5K miles that has been flawless. I bought a used 2017 RTX with @10K miles on it for my stepson, and it was perfect, until he installed a "tune" and aftermarket muffler. The RTX is now a rocket ship, but after the tune, it has had a few serious issues.

I have to believe that adding 50+ hp to a sled that is designed to handle @200 hp puts a lot of strain on parts and assemblies that were not designed, engineered, or manufactured to handle so much horsepower. I wonder what percentage of "stock" Sidewinder owners have experienced serious issues and failures vs. the owners with "tuned" and "modified" sleds? My uneducated guess is that most of the failures have occurred with the modified sleds.

 

[Teamblue4]

There are undoubtedly some issues that should be fixed at the factory, but at the risk of jinxing myself, I have to say that I have not experienced any of the serious issues I read about on this board. I have a 2019 Sidewinder LTX-DX with @ 5K miles that has been flawless. I bought a used 2017 RTX with @10K miles on it for my stepson, and it was perfect, until he installed a "tune" and aftermarket muffler. The RTX is now a rocket ship, but after the tune, it has had a few serious issues.

I have to believe that adding 50+ hp to a sled that is designed to handle @200 hp puts a lot of strain on parts and assemblies that were not designed, engineered, or manufactured to handle so much horsepower. I wonder what percentage of "stock" Sidewinder owners have experienced serious issues and failures vs. the owners with "tuned" and "modified" sleds? My uneducated guess is that most of the failures have occurred with the modified sleds.

My 19 Sidewinder was at the dealer 3 times with less than 400 miles. Stock! Wouldn't start, decal's peeling off, antifreeze leaks and driveline vibration. The new owner can deal with it now!

 

[Crossfire12]

My 19 Sidewinder was at the dealer 3 times with less than 400 miles. Stock! Wouldn't start, decal's peeling off, antifreeze leaks and driveline vibration. The new owner can deal with it now!

Ya my Ford pick up with same issues but I paid $50 thousand
Sometimes you have to quit complaining about decal peeling off, antifreeze leak, just get a hair dryer put decal back , grab a screw driver if you have one and tighten all hoses, now I know when I read these complaints, we are doomed if the Chinese come over, you won’t even have a keyboard

 

[74Nitro]

There are undoubtedly some issues that should be fixed at the factory, but at the risk of jinxing myself, I have to say that I have not experienced any of the serious issues I read about on this board. I have a 2019 Sidewinder LTX-DX with @ 5K miles that has been flawless. I bought a used 2017 RTX with @10K miles on it for my stepson, and it was perfect, until he installed a "tune" and aftermarket muffler. The RTX is now a rocket ship, but after the tune, it has had a few serious issues.

I have to believe that adding 50+ hp to a sled that is designed to handle @200 hp puts a lot of strain on parts and assemblies that were not designed, engineered, or manufactured to handle so much horsepower. I wonder what percentage of "stock" Sidewinder owners have experienced serious issues and failures vs. the owners with "tuned" and "modified" sleds? My uneducated guess is that most of the failures have occurred with the modified sleds.

We have beaten this horse to death. Let's just try to keep this thread on what we would like the 22's to have for new features.

 

[Wannaviper]

My 19 Sidewinder was at the dealer 3 times with less than 400 miles. Stock! Wouldn't start, decal's peeling off, antifreeze leaks and driveline vibration. The new owner can deal with it now!

Understood, but unfortunately there are potential quality control issues with any machine we buy, whether is a snowmobile or a luxury automobile. Were your issues the result of poor design, or were they issues created by poor quality control during assembly, and poor dealer prep?

What I am talking about are primarily the drivetrain issues that have been described on the board that are supposed to be the result of poor design and engineering. Shouldn't we expect to have issues when we boost a sled's horsepower by 25% or more? I can't say that is the problem, but with the number of Winder owners who tune their sleds, I have to wonder whether there is a correlation between the number of tunes and the number of complaints made about the poor design of the drivetrain? I know that on my stepson's RTX the extra horsepower caused the primary clutch to explode like a grenade. That clutch had gone over 10,000 miles stock without an issue.

 

[Wannaviper]

We have beaten this horse to death. Let's just try to keep this thread on what we would like the 22's to have for new features.

Sorry, I was writing my post below when you posted yours! I don't mean to rehash old issues, or beat a dead horse!

 

[Wannaviper]

Back on the subject, my hope for 22 is that Yamaha makes the XTX LE a production sled, and not a spring order only sled. There seem to be a lot of XTX SE sleds available, but no LE sleds. The SE with its 2" paddles and mountain front end are just not as well-suited to our riding conditions in Northern New England.

 

[vodoo child]

Understood, but unfortunately there are potential quality control issues with any machine we buy, whether is a snowmobile or a luxury automobile. Were your issues the result of poor design, or were they issues created by poor quality control during assembly, and poor dealer prep?

What I am talking about are primarily the drivetrain issues that have been described on the board that are supposed to be the result of poor design and engineering. Shouldn't we expect to have issues when we boost a sled's horsepower by 25% or more? I can't say that is the problem, but with the number of Winder owners who tune their sleds, I have to wonder whether there is a correlation between the number of tunes and the number of complaints made about the poor design of the drivetrain? I know that on my stepson's RTX the extra horsepower caused the primary clutch to explode like a grenade. That clutch had gone over 10,000 miles stock without an issue.

I would say the drive line issues are real. Stock vs's Mod. I rely can't say. My Winder is all stock except for better rollers, 35/38* helix, orange spring in the secondary and 3/2 hole setting. Glide washers on the stock primary spring, Hurricane rollers and the Hurricane clutch noise elimination stub shaft. (Stub shaft brought my belt offset right into line.) Original 8JP belt with 8,200 miles. My stock drive shaft had .017 thousand wear at 5,000 miles. Replaced with new driveshaft and the Barn of Parts driveshaft lock set at 40 lbs. torque. On the chain case side, tac weld the tension roller screws, RTV the inside of the sight glass window (Pre 2021's). I ran a Mc Master Carr 660 bushing last season with minimal wear after 2,300 miles. Switched over to the DMG Gear for this season. I now have better piece of mind of the sled's reliability. Sorry for the long rant.