MikeWalters
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straight bars, super low front end, LED headlight, custom hood panels... just looks like a modified current sled.
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Looks like a radar/speed run/drag setup to me. Anyone can do a number of things to current and past models for that application. Will make anything look different than factory production.
cacsrx1
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I came back to Yamaha...just for the 4 stroke...I don't care if they are heavier, and don't ride or handle as nice.....my last two cats, and my last two doo's got towed..due to blown engines...You can talk until you are blue in the face about the new two stroke from ski-doo (cat or polaris for that matter)....and you'd never convince me to go back...I ride trails in the upper Midwest, rarely go off trail, and do not powder ride...so having a lightweight two stroke means squat to me. Reliability is most important to me...turn key and go....Yamaha is the best for that...and nobody else has even come close. You will never convince me that a two stroke is a better machine for an older trail veteran or high mileage rider
I agree 100% that if you are an "older trail veteran " that doesn't go off trail, ride powder or care about having a lightweight sled that handles well, a four stroke will work great for you. Problem is its a shrinking segment. Now days new riders want to see whats over that hill, through those trees, and across that drainage. That's where the 2 strokes shine. I for one wont keep a sled for 10 years so the so called reliability does me no good on a four stroke. Give me a 2 stroke with a 4 year warranty and I will rotate every three years and be very happy.
Ak Yammy
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JDViper
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^^^THIS IS GREAT! Not so much for the doo guys...
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I would disagree. I think there are MORE people riding like this. Groomed trails are getting better and better. The average age of the snowmobiler is on the rise, not declining. That being said, I think there are also more people interested in "freeriding" than before. The problem is not every area is conducive to this type off riding.I agree 100% that if you are an "older trail veteran " that doesn't go off trail, ride powder or care about having a lightweight sled that handles well, a four stroke will work great for you. Problem is its a shrinking segment. Now days new riders want to see whats over that hill, through those trees, and across that drainage. That's where the 2 strokes shine. I for one wont keep a sled for 10 years so the so called reliability does me no good on a four stroke. Give me a 2 stroke with a 4 year warranty and I will rotate every three years and be very happy.
Give me a reliable sled any day of the week. I don't want to feel I have to trade just because my warranty is up. Plus, what good is a warranty if your sled is in the shop and you are not out riding? Your wallet takes it easier but you still are not on the trail.
stevewithOCD
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You are correct that the off trail segment is the biggest growing segment, but i disagree the 4-stroke section is shrinking. I posted before that if all 4 brands made multiple 4-strokes for different categories, this segment would explode. I personally know a bunch of Polaris guys that are clamming for a good 4. ALL my Doo boys will jump from their E-tecs if the 1200 had 150hp. Now, i ride the ''magic carpet'' in Maine(not this year) so fours dominate here, but my point is the 4-strokes segment is not dying, but being held back by fewer choices. My Polaris dealer just told me an hour ago that Polaris is hurting themselves because NO 4-stroke. He's sold more 4-stroke Cats to Polaris guys last year than total 2-strokes. Dying? Shrinking? I think deceiving market numbers. Why does #1 Doo have the most 4-stroke offerings? Coincidence? Off trail=2-stroke...On trail=4-strokes...I agree 100% that if you are an "older trail veteran " that doesn't go off trail, ride powder or care about having a lightweight sled that handles well, a four stroke will work great for you. Problem is its a shrinking segment. Now days new riders want to see whats over that hill, through those trees, and across that drainage. That's where the 2 strokes shine. I for one wont keep a sled for 10 years so the so called reliability does me no good on a four stroke. Give me a 2 stroke with a 4 year warranty and I will rotate every three years and be very happy.
RTX
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I laughed at that pic.
Then i laughed again when i noticed your sled has the exact same color scheme
Calwww
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That's not new. It's just a race modSpy picture View attachment 116457
cacsrx1
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I would disagree. I think there are MORE people riding like this. Groomed trails are getting better and better. The average age of the snowmobiler is on the rise, not declining. That being said, I think there are also more people interested in "freeriding" than before. The problem is not every area is conducive to this type off riding.
Give me a reliable sled any day of the week. I don't want to feel I have to trade just because my warranty is up. Plus, what good is a warranty if your sled is in the shop and you are not out riding? Your wallet takes it easier but you still are not on the trail.
In my area its just the opposite. 10 years ago a 141 was considered insane and nobody needed a sled like that. Today 141 to 163 is the norm, and they are not being bought by the 50-60 year olds, but more like the 25-40 year olds. From South Dakota west a 4 stroke Yamaha is like a unicorn, there just isn't any. I see many more Vmax, Sxr, SRX, and MMaxes than any 4 stroke. I rode my 08 Apex MTX for 5 years and don't recall ever seeing another one on the mountain or trail.
Ak Yammy
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Ehhh yeah some orange on the flames but RTX had the Yellow a bit more. I just put it up as a goof, kind of like it actually. I hate to say but if the design of that motor lives up to the hype that will be a major plus for me. Smoker that goes 10k miles before a rebuild is awful appealing. My Apex motor was anvil reliable but all I ever did was fix everything around it, sorry to say. I sure as heck would not run right out and buy first year and be a tester for Doo.
Anyway, enough Doo talk whens the next Sidewinder teaser!!
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Yeah, different area, different needs. You see more and more 4 strokes out here. Maybe 1 in 50 sleds is some sort of mountain/hybrid sled. 10 years ago I had one of the few 4 strokes with the rx-1, now everyone I ride with has a 4 stroke from some manufacture.In my area its just the opposite. 10 years ago a 141 was considered insane and nobody needed a sled like that. Today 141 to 163 is the norm, and they are not being bought by the 50-60 year olds, but more like the 25-40 year olds. From South Dakota west a 4 stroke Yamaha is like a unicorn, there just isn't any. I see many more Vmax, Sxr, SRX, and MMaxes than any 4 stroke. I rode my 08 Apex MTX for 5 years and don't recall ever seeing another one on the mountain or trail.
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Any hints last couple of days from Chris? Also when is the next and probably last video coming? The suspense is killing ...
fxnytrortxkid
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Guessing around Friday. As release is next Tuesday. Give cpl days of guessing
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Yamaha Facebook... Second video show to be continued March 1st... So there might not be another video coming...
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