

Murse
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- Snowmobile
- 2011 Yamaha Apex Std Red
She sounds like a 2016 R1 motor. can we say 180 hp range???
Totally agree. Average age is climbing. Most places strictly forbid riding off trail. Many 4 strokes handle just fine in the powder. And in a decade 2 strokes will be a thing of the past as the only sport to still use this antiquated technology is snowmobiles! Every other sport has already made the move to 4 strokes, and the big 4 cannot remain profitable building engines that will only apply to one business line. The clock is ticking on the 2 smokes.I would disagree. I think there are MORE people riding like this. Groomed trails are getting better and better. The average age of the snowmobiler is on the rise, not declining. That being said, I think there are also more people interested in "freeriding" than before. The problem is not every area is conducive to this type off riding.
Give me a reliable sled any day of the week. I don't want to feel I have to trade just because my warranty is up. Plus, what good is a warranty if your sled is in the shop and you are not out riding? Your wallet takes it easier but you still are not on the trail.
Got nearly 20,000 miles on my Nytro XTX and I am 100% certain that is the same motor. Very distinctive sound.What the hell? Ain't a 2 smoke for sure. Sounds like my wife's sewing machine!?
Got nearly 20,000 miles on my Nytro XTX and I am 100% certain that is the same motor. Very distinctive sound.
The bigger question is, what kind of helmet was that?
It's the all new Honda snowmobile concept lol, j/k !Hey sweetrides what sled is that in your avatar...
I agree 100% that if you are an "older trail veteran " that doesn't go off trail, ride powder or care about having a lightweight sled that handles well, a four stroke will work great for you. Problem is its a shrinking segment. Now days new riders want to see whats over that hill, through those trees, and across that drainage. That's where the 2 strokes shine. I for one wont keep a sled for 10 years so the so called reliability does me no good on a four stroke. Give me a 2 stroke with a 4 year warranty and I will rotate every three years and be very happy.
Just came back from the dark side, I mean Doo site "2017 Renegade X 850, Ski Doo advertised dry weight 485 lbs" that makes it 20 lbs lighter than my 141 Viper XTX.
Add battery and starter to the Doo and be about equal, add extra weight of snow the Doo platform carries compared to the Pro Climb and in an hour the Doo is heavier.
As far as the 20 lb difference is concerned, I would love to have my sled shed 20 lbs, it's jeans would fit better, its suit would fit better and make sure it doesn't take the step from L to XL.
And if the EPA takes one more step we will be looking for lighter catalytic converters for our 4 strokes.