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New Heavy Duty/High performance clutching for My Sidewinder this season


Thunder Products said:
Thank you for the phone call yesterday WinterWolf, glad I could answer your questions ;)!
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Terry I also spoke with you yesterday re the Pro 4 spacer issue. I sincerely appreciate you taking the time to walk me through the install logic on that. Thank you!
 
well there shipping my Tapp primary today ,
there setting me up with the black primary spring , 1mm roller , xxx ramps ,set on a , not sure about how much weight on the arms , can any of u guys using the Tapp primary what r u starting out with weight on your arms ? any info would be great to start with , I will be using the xs825 belt , thanks
 
sledding rocks said:
well there shipping my Tapp primary today ,
there setting me up with the black primary spring , 1mm roller , xxx ramps ,set on a , not sure about how much weight on the arms , can any of u guys using the Tapp primary what r u starting out with weight on your arms ? any info would be great to start with , I will be using the xs825 belt , thanks
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It’s all gonna depend on what you have...are you stock? Are you tuned? What tunes? SM? PM? Header? A bundle? Just one Tune? What’s the secondary you’re running with it? Stock secondary? Aftermarket Secondary? Etc etc...

The TAPP IS SUPER Adjustable...quick and easy. Start it out with how they send it to you, and see how it works with your secondary? And go from there.
 
So I’m in N. Maine doing some riding, and made some adjustments to dial in the TAPP and Pro 4.

Wrapped my secondary spring one hole tighter, and switched my clickers from #3 to #4 on the TAPP. What a huge difference! Sled runs like a total beast. TAPP and Pro 4 and XS825 now seem to work beautifully together(21/41 stock gearing). The new SS SM tunes from Hurricane are Fabo. Wants to pull your arms out of your sockets.

Think I have it where I want it....gonna leave it be now. Very happy. Super smooth and silky...but very very explosive with just a touch of throttle.

BTW...On the Powder Lites-TAPP Primary Website, they are using the picture of my clutches/machine as their advertisement for their product lol. I didn’t know that till I went on the site and found it!! Pretty cool.
 
WinterWolf said:
So I’m in N. Maine doing some riding, and made some adjustments to dial in the TAPP and Pro 4.

Wrapped my secondary spring one hole tighter, and switched my clickers from #3 to #4 on the TAPP. What a huge difference! Sled runs like a total beast. TAPP and Pro 4 and XS825 now seem to work beautifully together(21/41 stock gearing). The new SS SM tunes from Hurricane are Fabo. Wants to pull your arms out of your sockets.

Think I have it where I want it....gonna leave it be now. Very happy. Super smooth and silky...but very very explosive with just a touch of throttle.

BTW...On the Powder Lites-TAPP Primary Website, they are using the picture of my clutches/machine as their advertisement for their product lol. I didn’t know that till I went on the site and found it!! Pretty cool.
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What are your clutch temps cruising/top end?
 
WinterWolf said:
It’s all gonna depend on what you have...are you stock? Are you tuned? What tunes? SM? PM? Header? A bundle? Just one Tune? What’s the secondary you’re running with it? Stock secondary? Aftermarket Secondary? Etc etc...

The TAPP IS SUPER Adjustable...quick and easy. Start it out with how they send it to you, and see how it works with your secondary? And go from there.
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im tuned for 300hp , / header , I will start off with the stock secondary , 35 helix and see were this takes me , thanks
 
WinterWolf said:
So I’m in N. Maine doing some riding, and made some adjustments to dial in the TAPP and Pro 4.

Wrapped my secondary spring one hole tighter, and switched my clickers from #3 to #4 on the TAPP. What a huge difference! Sled runs like a total beast. TAPP and Pro 4 and XS825 now seem to work beautifully together(21/41 stock g.
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One hole tighter on the secondary. Do you mean one from center or one from a previous setting? Did you adjust the clickers at the same time?What where the RPM changes with the adjustments?
 
WinterWolf said:
So I’m in N. Maine doing some riding, and made some adjustments to dial in the TAPP and Pro 4.

Wrapped my secondary spring one hole tighter, and switched my clickers from #3 to #4 on the TAPP. What a huge difference! Sled runs like a total beast. TAPP and Pro 4 and XS825 now seem to work beautifully together(21/41 stock gearing). The new SS SM tunes from Hurricane are Fabo. Wants to pull your arms out of your sockets.

Think I have it where I want it....gonna leave it be now. Very happy. Super smooth and silky...but very very explosive with just a touch of throttle.

BTW...On the Powder Lites-TAPP Primary Website, they are using the picture of my clutches/machine as their advertisement for their product lol. I didn’t know that till I went on the site and found it!! Pretty cool.
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WinterWolf, are you running any allen screw weights or any washers on the roller thru bolts? I'm spinning 9300 WOT clickers on 3 no added weights trying to tame this thing down. Talked to Dave at TAPP yesterday and today, and I'm going to add some allen screws and washers to start getting this WOT RPM under control. Thanks.
 
snowcaine said:
WinterWolf, are you running any allen screw weights or any washers on the roller thru bolts? I'm spinning 9300 WOT clickers on 3 no added weights trying to tame this thing down. Talked to Dave at TAPP yesterday and today, and I'm going to add some allen screws and washers to start getting this WOT RPM under control. Thanks.
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What belt/tune are you running?
 
STAIN said:
What belt/tune are you running?
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STAIN, XS825, TD Max Spool 17, 25% VP C16, header, CAI, BOV, Pro 4 secondary, 43/34 helix. My a/f is good at WOT ~11.8-12.2.

I'm not studded. Adding 192 1.575" Gold Diggers this weekend though. I'm expecting that to zap a few RPM's off the top end, right?
 
No studs on that much HP? Yikes!!! That thing must be dangerous!!!
Traction should bring the RPM down. After that 1 gram added to each arm( 4 grams total ) should bring the RPM down @150-200 rpm per gram.
 
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STAIN said:
No studs on that much HP? Yikes!!! That thing must be dangerous!!!
Traction should bring the RPM down. After that 1 gram added to each arm( 4 grams total ) should bring the RPM down @100 rpm per gram.
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Thanks for that insight. Yes it's stupid loose even at 100+ mph punching WOT. Zero traction.
 
WinterWolf said:
So I’m in N. Maine doing some riding, and made some adjustments to dial in the TAPP and Pro 4.

Wrapped my secondary spring one hole tighter, and switched my clickers from #3 to #4 on the TAPP. What a huge difference! Sled runs like a total beast. TAPP and Pro 4 and XS825 now seem to work beautifully together(21/41 stock gearing). The new SS SM tunes from Hurricane are Fabo. Wants to pull your arms out of your sockets.

Think I have it where I want it....gonna leave it be now. Very happy. Super smooth and silky...but very very explosive with just a touch of throttle.

BTW...On the Powder Lites-TAPP Primary Website, they are using the picture of my clutches/machine as their advertisement for their product lol. I didn’t know that till I went on the site and found it!! Pretty cool.
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what helix and spring r u using on your pro 4 ? im currently ordering one also , thanks
 
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