Remote Start

[thor452]

has anyone used the sled start system to aid in cold start issues? is it safe with a SC unit. My problem is if it drops below zero my sled don't want to start it has been a problem since new. I have to crank and crank and it will sputter and pop and then if I catch it just right with the throttle I can trick it to start. most times I have to crank it so much she needs a jump to keep cranking and I worry about burning up the starter too. after I get it to start it will start and run all day stop for food whatever no worries it is the long sleep over night in sub zero that kills it. wish I could just find a fix to the issue instead of looking for a band aid. my ridding partners have 2011's and have never not started one was a bear one time but still started. mine will kill the battery before it starts.

 

[Redbeard]

I have always had the same issue with my 2012 Apex. I've yet to hear of a cure.

 

[thor452]

we need one of the computer geniuses on here to write a new flash for the ECU. Maybe none of them bought a 2012. reading in some old posts I seen someone had this problem with the 2007 Phazer. Yamaha did come out with a new ECU for them guys but he was going to put in a switch to cut off the fuel pump until he had cranked the motor over a few times seems it was over fueling when cold and he seemed to have some success with it but he never posted up his end results. it seems like mine over fuels when deep cold as well as it smells of fuel and it comes out the exhaust looking like smoke and even lets out one hell of a backfire sometimes too. I was thinking about putting a coolant heater in the sled so I could plug in when it is cold my worry with that is you are not always somewhere you can plug in. I wonder if I got a 2011 or 2013 ECU if that would cure it??? I wonder if they have a different part number?

 

[steiner]

Adding a remote start will not help your cold start issue. If anything it will hurt it. Most remote starters have a maximum crank time of 30 seconds. They will also not control throttle opening while cranking to "trick" the machine into running.
Remote starters need good strong batteries. When then the voltage starts to drop they tend to fail.
My buddy's 2012 starts just fine in the colder temps but I do know of a 2011 that had to be coaxed to start at -30c at a TY ride. Ended up pulling the fuel pump fuse and hooking up jumpers to a pickup to get it going.
Fuel injection can be fussy. Maybe the temp sensor is giving off false readings and dumping too much fuel.

 

[thor452]

The sled start product has a setting to start the sled every hour or 2 or 3 to help keep it warm thru the night that is why I was thinking it might help as once you get it started for the day she starts just fine all day so if it started itself every hour and ran for 10 mins maybe it would not get so stone cold that it wont start in the morning.

 

[rcp1018]

Do you have the red solid state fuel pump relay?
If not, you need it

 

[Viper_Dave]

Don't bother with a 2011 ECU because mine does the same thing. It seemed better once I installed the Power Commander, but 2 seasons ago it did it several times. Last time I held the throttle wide open and cranked it off of a jump box until the starter smoked and it finally ran. This is now my final issue with my '11. I've fixed skid, clutching, skis and seat. 13,000 miles and it's FINALLY what I thought I'd bought lol.

 

[thor452]

Do you have the red solid state fuel pump relay?
If not, you need it

no I do not and the relay is not freezing I am well aware of the relay issues and that is mostly on the older ones I have always hear the fuel pump and I am almost certain it is flooding but thanks for the response. I think I am going to try the switch option on the fuel pump and see if I can trick it to start this season if it works I will post up what I did and how it worked.

 

[Sasquatch]

Adding a remote start will not help your cold start issue. If anything it will hurt it. Most remote starters have a maximum crank time of 30 seconds. They will also not control throttle opening while cranking to "trick" the machine into running.
Remote starters need good strong batteries. When then the voltage starts to drop they tend to fail.
My buddy's 2012 starts just fine in the colder temps but I do know of a 2011 that had to be coaxed to start at -30c at a TY ride. Ended up pulling the fuel pump fuse and hooking up jumpers to a pickup to get it going.
Fuel injection can be fussy. Maybe the temp sensor is giving off false readings and dumping too much fuel.

Was -35C and it happened again couple days later in Swan River at the same temp. I blame to stiff of oil ( first time not using mobile1 0-40) and a fading (slow cranking) battery. Right from the beginning of season it seemed to crank slower when cold. To those who talk down carb sleds my Warrior started at -40! In 10,000 miles Those two days where my only hard start issues.

 

[tnc110]

The sled start product has a setting to start the sled every hour or 2 or 3 to help keep it warm thru the night that is why I was thinking it might help as once you get it started for the day she starts just fine all day so if it started itself every hour and ran for 10 mins maybe it would not get so stone cold that it wont start in the morning.

Interesting.

 

[Agman 57]

I have the remote start on my S/C Nytro, have had it for 6 seasons now. Have had no issues with it.
I don't use it to often, usually just when we go out west and it is bitter cold at night.

It will keep your engine warm just like you want. The temp sensor will keep your under hood temp warm by starting when needed.
Only down side is people will hear it start up several times at night, make sure it is parked headlight away from the hotel or your headlight will be shining at someone's window.

Boy did I get a earful the first time I used it on a trip and had never given this a thought.
The guys wanted to know who the Hell was out running their sled in the middle of the night, and the headlight was shinning in their window! LOL

 

[Sasquatch]

I have just thought about a inline block heater. When touring power is always available. From what I gather unplug it for a bit before you start it! Both my non starts where in my enclosed trailer maybe there is a connection there!

 

[thor452]

I have the remote start on my S/C Nytro, have had it for 6 seasons now. Have had no issues with it.
I don't use it to often, usually just when we go out west and it is bitter cold at night.

It will keep your engine warm just like you want. The temp sensor will keep your under hood temp warm by starting when needed.
Only down side is people will hear it start up several times at night, make sure it is parked headlight away from the hotel or your headlight will be shining at someone's window.

Boy did I get a earful the first time I used it on a trip and had never given this a thought.
The guys wanted to know who the Hell was out running their sled in the middle of the night, and the headlight was shinning in their window! LOL

thanks for the reply Agman that is what I am hoping it will do for me if I decide to pull the trigger.

 

[yamadoo]

I have the remote start on my S/C Nytro, have had it for 6 seasons now. Have had no issues with it.
I don't use it to often, usually just when we go out west and it is bitter cold at night.

It will keep your engine warm just like you want. The temp sensor will keep your under hood temp warm by starting when needed.
Only down side is people will hear it start up several times at night, make sure it is parked headlight away from the hotel or your headlight will be shining at someone's window.

Boy did I get a earful the first time I used it on a trip and had never given this a thought.
The guys wanted to know who the Hell was out running their sled in the middle of the night, and the headlight was shinning in their window! LOL

Now that is a funny unintended consequence

 

[cannondale27]

Have to wonder if the problem starting sleds might need a valve adjustment. Temperature effects valve clearance and starting a lot. Poor cold starting is a symptom.