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I was working on the sled last night in the garage and was adjusting the track. In doing so I noticed that the right side of the track was worn quite a bit from rubbing on the side of the tunnel. Never before in all my years of riding and wrenching have I come across this. I am wondering if this is an "operator error" i.e. ME, or systemic with the ZX2. Has anyone else come across such a problem?
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mdkuni
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Pics?
LazyBastard
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Track slipped off the rails. This can happen when the track is too loose. I understand that due to the composite materials and how they shrink with temperature, that the track has to be extra tight at normal/warm temperatures in order for it to be a normal tension at low temperature.
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I will take pics tonight. Thanks LazyBastard. I also spoke to Dennis Boivin this am and he said to remove the old brackets from the tunnel where the track was hitting.
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That is exactly what I did when installing the ZX-2 tunnel mounting kit. I figured that the steel only added weight to my sled no strength, so I removed them. I have not had any problems with this happening.
BTW - I was helping out a friend with a '06 Attak. When installing the tunnel mounting kit we noticed that his track had been rubbing against the stock mounting brackets leaving a lot of track rubber inside the holes in the stock skid mounting brackets. Apparently it will be rubbing on sleds running the Monoshock suspensions as well.
BTW - I was helping out a friend with a '06 Attak. When installing the tunnel mounting kit we noticed that his track had been rubbing against the stock mounting brackets leaving a lot of track rubber inside the holes in the stock skid mounting brackets. Apparently it will be rubbing on sleds running the Monoshock suspensions as well.
mdkuni
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rxrider said:That is exactly what I did when installing the ZX-2 tunnel mounting kit. I figured that the steel only added weight to my sled no strength, so I removed them. I have not have any problems with this happening.
BTW - I was helping out a friend with a '06 Attak. When installing the tunnel mounting kit we noticed that his track had been rubbing against the stock mounting brackets leaving a lot of track rubber inside the holes in the stock skid mounting brackets. Apparently it will be rubbing on sleds running the Monoshock suspensions as weel.
I still have my rear mono mounting plates installed. I left them for added strength, but it sounds like these should be removed?
I put the sled half way up a bank so the sled was tilted and did notice the track and the bracket on one side come really close to touching.
I can replace the old rivets with new ones. I will just use some cheap rivets instead of the heavy duty ones since they will serve no purpose other then looks. I am not sure what to do with the two large bolt holes though. Any ideas?
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Mdkuni,
I know you been running that new suspension only for a few k miles. Can you report the tunnel ice build-up with your suspension. Does it bother as much as the Mono?
Thank you
I know you been running that new suspension only for a few k miles. Can you report the tunnel ice build-up with your suspension. Does it bother as much as the Mono?
Thank you
rxrider
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mdkuni said:rxrider said:That is exactly what I did when installing the ZX-2 tunnel mounting kit. I figured that the steel only added weight to my sled no strength, so I removed them. I have not have any problems with this happening.
BTW - I was helping out a friend with a '06 Attak. When installing the tunnel mounting kit we noticed that his track had been rubbing against the stock mounting brackets leaving a lot of track rubber inside the holes in the stock skid mounting brackets. Apparently it will be rubbing on sleds running the Monoshock suspensions as weel.
I still have my rear mono mounting plates installed. I left them for added strength, but it sounds like these should be removed?
I put the sled half way up a bank so the sled was tilted and did notice the track and the bracket on one side come really close to touching.
I can replace the old rivets with new ones. I will just use some cheap rivets instead of the heavy duty ones since they will serve no purpose other then looks. I am not sure what to do with the two large bolt holes though. Any ideas?
The fixation bolt and nut, that came with the ZX-2 tunnel mounting kit, looks nice. I installed them in the middle mounting holes for the Proaction, looks stock I may get 4 extra to install in the holes from the old rear mounting bracket.
mdkuni
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I used the two bolts for my old front mono shock mounting points. I guess I can just go pick up four more.
mdkuni
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Yummy said:Mdkuni,
I know you been running that new suspension only for a few k miles. Can you report the tunnel ice build-up with your suspension. Does it bother as much as the Mono?
Thank you
Not sure there is much of a difference of ice build up between the track and exhaust. I have only had about three times since the skid was in where I had a couple pieces of ice stuck after sitting for awhile. I have also been making a point to back the sled up before taking off though. I also pick the rear end up a couple times before going in reverse to free things up. Ice on the suspension is a whole different story though. Not much at all gathering there.
LazyBastard
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Ice buildup in the tunnel has nothing to do with the suspension and everything to do with the tunnel protectors. Any kind of wet snow or water that goes into the tunnel can stick to the tunnel protectors and ultimately build up into huge blocks of ice. If you're not running spikes, the ice problem can be COMPLETELY CURED 100% by removing the tunnel protectors.
mdkuni
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LazyBastard said:Ice buildup in the tunnel has nothing to do with the suspension and everything to do with the tunnel protectors. Any kind of wet snow or water that goes into the tunnel can stick to the tunnel protectors and ultimately build up into huge blocks of ice. If you're not running spikes, the ice problem can be COMPLETELY CURED 100% by removing the tunnel protectors.
Thanks LB. I think I will drill those out at the end of the year.
Yummy
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Does the ice stick at the suspension parts like it does with the Mono?
In Icing condition, all the Mono tubes increase in size by 3-5 times!
In Icing condition, all the Mono tubes increase in size by 3-5 times!
mdkuni
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Yummy said:Does the ice stick at the suspension parts like it does with the Mono?
In Icing condition, all the Mono tubes increase in size by 3-5 times!
Yummy I know exactly what you are referring to as I saw it many times on my mono and I can tell you the ZX2 doe not even come close to that. I do not think I have ever seen any ice build up on this skid besides the metal revolver plate. Some wet heavy snow does stick but most of the time the skid is clear.
I did see one picture by rxrider where there was snow in his skid but I think with the snow he was riding in that day anything would have held snow..
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LazyBastard
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There are a few reasons why snow won't stick as bad to the zx2 suspension as any metal suspension;
1) plastic doesn't conduct heat as well as metal, so it won't have the same freezing effect on wet snow and water.
2) plastic tends to be slightly slippery
3) plastic tends to flex more under pressure, causing the ice to crack off.
1) plastic doesn't conduct heat as well as metal, so it won't have the same freezing effect on wet snow and water.
2) plastic tends to be slightly slippery
3) plastic tends to flex more under pressure, causing the ice to crack off.
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