Second ride report

[Nikolai]

Don't forget Ski-Doos run 16" wide tracks, this helps in both floatation and climbing ability.

I'll be able to soon compare Stock FX Nytro MTX to a stock 05 Rev 800 in a few weeks or less.

That's why I said it'd be a match for a 144 Rev.

 

[SilentSno]

That's why I said it'd be a match for a 144 Rev.

Oh and thats what I'll be riding with/against

 

[cobaltpilot]

The 800R power falls off fast at altitude with the low compression head that they have. I had an 04 151" which stomped my 07 151" with the challenger lite trench track. If the Nytro can beat an 06 144" I am going to be very happy with mine.

06 was without a doubt the best year for the Summit yet.

 

[SilentSno]

I mean to say 06 Rev 800. I've corrected in my last post.

 

[Nikolai]

That makes a huge difference too. I ride near sea level so my results will be different than say someone who rides 8000-10000 ft. The higher up you ride the better the Nytro will do.

 

[ruffryder]

nikolai,

curious what your plans are for the front track shock since you are going with the kmod?

thanks for the post too, lot of good info for those that don't have theirs yet.

 

[ken_climb]

If the Nytro can beat an 06 144" I am going to be very happy with mine.

You'll have a chance against the 06 rev with your stock nytro only if the rev is a 600! Sorry guy's, but this is a 600 class sled here. Boost would be the only way you'd come close to highmarking a 800 rev....sorry to say!

 

[cobaltpilot]

My 04 Rev800 had 138HP. I'd think if you could do the Timbersled treatment you'd be close to the performance of the 04...

If not boost is a nice option.

 

[Crewchief47]

ruffryder,

Please fill out your location in your profile. Site Rules.

 

[Nikolai]

nikolai,

curious what your plans are for the front track shock since you are going with the kmod?

thanks for the post too, lot of good info for those that don't have theirs yet.

I'm leaving it for now. It seems decent enough and I have no complaints with it. I haven't heard of anyone running the Kmod and changing the front track shock.

 

[ruffryder]

I guess coming from the ditch banging on my rev 440, that thing had awesome suspension. I am curious as to why the kmod doesn't have dual rate springs nor a remote reservoir for the shock. I guess these things are not needed for mountain riding? Or they are cost prohibited?

profile is filled out more....

 

[jrusher]

I finally got my nytro out this weekend 160 km in 6000 ft-8000ft elevation my other buddies were on a xp 154 and a new Dragon 132 and a Cat 1000 ..
Im new to riding in the mountains and just getting back into sledding.. My friends are veteran mountains guys.. I battled with my buddies xp on a couple climbs and he couldnt believe I was still beside him then high marking him... They were all impressed on how well it did.. We all switched machines throughout the weekend and they all have ++ and --"s
If I can get the nytro to handle the rough trails etc. better with some suspension changes,, and get that excell exhaust for a couple more ponies I'll be even happier...

 

[mnescape]

If the Nytro can beat an 06 144" I am going to be very happy with mine.

You'll have a chance against the 06 rev with your stock nytro only if the rev is a 600! Sorry guy's, but this is a 600 class sled here. Boost would be the only way you'd come close to highmarking a 800 rev....sorry to say!

Ken is correct here!!

Had my Nytro out this week for the first time in Cooke City, MT. After the first day's ride, I was ready to slap a "For Sale" sign on it!! This sled can't get out of it's own way in deep powder on a climb!! BIG DISAPPOINTMENT!

Keep in mind, I am coming off of a 2003 Vertical Escape....slightly modded. My buddies ride an M7 with a 910, and a Polaris 900 with a 975, so I didn't expect to go everywhere they did with the stock Nytro, however, I DID expect more the I got. It wasn't even close.

I believe the biggest problem is in the secondary. It wouldn't back shift under load. I can pull 8800 rpms all day long on the trail or flat, packed snow. But, when you put this thing in powder, it could only get 8300. Put it in powder on a climb, and 7800 was max!! I'm going to look into the Shockwave Adjustable Clutch. Been hearing good things about this.

The track is by far the worst I have ever seen. I will be turning it around before the next ride and see how that does. If it still folds, I'll be going with the 2.25 Challenger.

The skies are great in powder, but absolutely suck on the trail or any hard pack snow. I have never been thrown around so much. Lowering the front spring dampening helped a little bit. Really wishing I would have kept my Simmons. Will definitely be changing the skies.

Now for the good news.....By far, the BEST handling sled I have ever ridden! It cuts and carves unbelievably well and feels VERY light. Even my buddies said it was better handling then theirs. This is definitely the sleds strong point. However, handling doesn't do any good without the power to go with it...at least in the places we ride.

I didn't buy this sled to ride stock for long. I had every intention of adding boost next year. I can see that coming a lot sooner then later!!

BTW, I would not recommend any type of skid plate on this machine if you ride off trail at all. I added the OEM skid plate to mine before leaving on this trip. On the second day, I noticed a huge bulge in the plate. The plate traps the snow and the engine heat turns it into ice. The expanding ice had pushed the plate down about 2 inches. If I had not noticed it, I think it would have cracked the plate or possibly pulled the screws out of the top. When I got back into town and removed the plate, I had to chip 6 inches of ice away from the A-arms support area. I might try drilling some large holes in the plate, but my gut tells me this isn't going to work. If you have a skid plate, keep an eye on this!

 

[cobaltpilot]

Oh that is painful to read. <dissapointment>

 

[BlgsRX-1mtn]

If the Nytro can beat an 06 144" I am going to be very happy with mine.

You'll have a chance against the 06 rev with your stock nytro only if the rev is a 600! Sorry guy's, but this is a 600 class sled here. Boost would be the only way you'd come close to highmarking a 800 rev....sorry to say!

Ken is correct here!!

Had my Nytro out this week for the first time in Cooke City, MT. After the first day's ride, I was ready to slap a "For Sale" sign on it!! This sled can't get out of it's own way in deep powder on a climb!! BIG DISAPPOINTMENT!

Keep in mind, I am coming off of a 2003 Vertical Escape....slightly modded. My buddies ride an M7 with a 910, and a Polaris 900 with a 975, so I didn't expect to go everywhere they did with the stock Nytro, however, I DID expect more the I got. It wasn't even close.

I believe the biggest problem is in the secondary. It wouldn't back shift under load. I can pull 8800 rpms all day long on the trail or flat, packed snow. But, when you put this thing in powder, it could only get 8300. Put it in powder on a climb, and 7800 was max!! I'm going to look into the Shockwave Adjustable Clutch. Been hearing good things about this.

The track is by far the worst I have ever seen. I will be turning it around before the next ride and see how that does. If it still folds, I'll be going with the 2.25 Challenger.

The skies are great in powder, but absolutely suck on the trail or any hard pack snow. I have never been thrown around so much. Lowering the front spring dampening helped a little bit. Really wishing I would have kept my Simmons. Will definitely be changing the skies.

Now for the good news.....By far, the BEST handling sled I have ever ridden! It cuts and carves unbelievably well and feels VERY light. Even my buddies said it was better handling then theirs. This is definitely the sleds strong point. However, handling doesn't do any good without the power to go with it...at least in the places we ride.

I didn't buy this sled to ride stock for long. I had every intention of adding boost next year. I can see that coming a lot sooner then later!!

BTW, I would not recommend any type of skid plate on this machine if you ride off trail at all. I added the OEM skid plate to mine before leaving on this trip. On the second day, I noticed a huge bulge in the plate. The plate traps the snow and the engine heat turns it into ice. The expanding ice had pushed the plate down about 2 inches. If I had not noticed it, I think it would have cracked the plate or possibly pulled the screws out of the top. When I got back into town and removed the plate, I had to chip 6 inches of ice away from the A-arms support area. I might try drilling some large holes in the plate, but my gut tells me this isn't going to work. If you have a skid plate, keep an eye on this!

It must have been you guys that honked at me and the wife when we were parked along the road headed home. We had the RX-1mtn (on the left side)and 900 RMK on an open two place Triton with the salt gaurd being pulled with a Red Ford Escape. The truck that honked had a Polaris in the back and one on the trailer along with a Nytro. At least thats what the covers indicted the sleds were.

The Nytro I rode had the secondary spring twisted another 10 degrees but it still felt slugish on the backshift while climbing. His would hold 8300 in a climb.

Jim