Sled manufacturers copying one another

[AKrider]

Remember all the contrversy about how Yamaha used an Polaris IQR rear skid in their sno-x sled? Check out the spindles on this Polaris IQR at Duluth. They sure look like Cat spindles to me.

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[bottlerocket]

They look tall or spread out like the cats but as all things evolve everybody follows. Well maybe not the shock laying on top of the track....

 

[ahicks]

Good eyes! Somebody's trying something there, aren't they? And there's very likely much more to it than a simple spindle swap. That's a complete re do on the front end/steering geometry to allow them to run those....

 

[RoyalBlue]

Cat

Looks good to say the least , who won the Final , any Blue on the Podium.

Anyone have a TV ,Date and Time.

Thanks.

B

 

[Super Sled]

Polaris won the big race Friday nite. Well know tommorrow other winners.

 

[Puppe]

Did you notice "long"tracks?(Malinoski, Lavallee).

 

[low slung]

Sad thing is this IQ racer was only sold to the general public for only one year(2008)as a consumer sled.Its not a mass produced sled.Seems there afraid to run the rush in sno-cross(can,t blame them,the XP from ski-doo is not setting the world on fire in sno-cross).

 

[Puppe]

Sad thing is this IQ racer was only sold to the general public for only one year(2008)as a consumer sled.Its not a mass produced sled.Seems there afraid to run the rush in sno-cross(can,t blame them,the XP from ski-doo is not setting the world on fire in sno-cross).

Here it is available for everyone, price tag is 13990 euros, thought.

 

[Super Sled]

Ross Martin won Dominator elimination race Friday night on his Polaris and won $10,000.

Then Sarturday former Yamaha champion Robby Malinowski took the win on his Ski Doo. Martin took second on his Polaris and Tremblay took third on his Ski Doo in the Finals. Tucker Hibbert had to settle for fourth on Saturday.

Well see about today soon enough!

 

[Puppe]

Heat is on!
http://www.ustream.tv/xsantv

 

[AKrider]

Sad thing is this IQ racer was only sold to the general public for only one year(2008)as a consumer sled.Its not a mass produced sled.Seems there afraid to run the rush in sno-cross(can,t blame them,the XP from ski-doo is not setting the world on fire in sno-cross).

I think the biggest issue why it didn't sell was the price, $10,000 for a carb'd sled in '08. Funny how they offer it in Europe though. Here in the states the IQR is only available through the race program and mine came with a letter and a sticker on the tunnel saying it is exempt from some emissions regulation as it is for competition use only. Technically it is not supposed to be ridden on trails. I'm glad I don't live in an area where that type of stuff could be enforced.

The Rush won't be run at a factory level in sno-x because they've got the IQR and the Rush isn't as good for sno-x. They are racing it in XC in the USCC. Both Gabe Bunke and Bobby Menne race Pro-R Rush's in select events where they feel it is more competitive than the IQR. Here in Alaska quite a few guys raced Pro-R's last season and the kid that won the AMMC semi-pro XC title raced a Pro-R. The Pro-R's also won the Iron Dog last year. They are not perfect but they are nice machines for going through the bumps. The rear of the skid does feel bottomless but the center shock couldn't keep up on the 11's. The 12's may be improved? I know they advertised a number of changes.

 

[RoyalBlue]

PoePoe

Ya know everybody bashes Polaris BUT they have dominated Snowmobile Racing for years , you could not touch them at the Soo for years , and those Cowboys from Union Pass Wy are riding circles around the MTXs on there RMKs , are we brainwashed?

 

[low slung]

Re: PoePoe

Ya know everybody bashes Polaris BUT they have dominated Snowmobile Racing for years , you could not touch them at the Soo for years , and those Cowboys from Union Pass Wy are riding circles around the MTXs on there RMKs , are we brainwashed?

At the soo yamaha won three straight years with the apex until they banned it(and people wonder why yamaha pulls the plug on race programs).Guess the north american sled builders don,t like it when an outsider brings guns to a knife fight .

 

[AKrider]

I forgot all about how many times Yamaha got screwed over in racing. I believe the Vmax 4 was banned and then the Apex was banned from the Soo. There was also something with sno-x in the late 90's when they did away with the 600 class or something? I recall Yamaha didn't have a 440 so they didn't race in those classes and maybe open class was for 800's? I don't remember the details.

I can see Yamaha's point of view about being not being rewarded for doing well in racing. I guess the flip side of the coin is Yamaha doesn't seem to ever want to follow the same rules that are good for the other three OEM's.

 

[low slung]

I forgot all about how many times Yamaha got screwed over in racing. I believe the Vmax 4 was banned and then the Apex was banned from the Soo. There was also something with sno-x in the late 90's when they did away with the 600 class or something? I recall Yamaha didn't have a 440 so they didn't race in those classes and maybe open class was for 800's? I don't remember the details.

I can see Yamaha's point of view about being not being rewarded for doing well in racing. I guess the flip side of the coin is Yamaha doesn't seem to ever want to follow the same rules that are good for the other three OEM's.

Yamaha likes to make there own path instead of following the leader(thats why we never saw a factory 440 racer in the 1990s).But half of yamahas racing success came from non-factory efforts(1980s are a good example of this).