snow trackers Bergstrom Tripples or Woodys doolys

[kviper]

Semi's bite like most wear bar's. Agressiv's bite like nothing else out there and some claim they bite unexpectedly. In my opinion just don't over steer as turning the bar's farther in an un hooked situation don't make it bite any better any way so if you catch harder snow it don't give you an unexpected surprise. If your not a real agressive rider the semi's will work great. Hope that makes sense? I will never ride with out them again! Also follow the setup instructions (small tag on package) and don't run any shim's as the Bergstrom setup run's, the front of the ski needs to be on the snow.

 

[779cookies]

Aggressive trackers and pilots here, thanks to KnappAttack's advice on a pm over 2 years ago. My sled goes where ever I point it, at any speed, in all conditions. No darting. You can high side it in hard conditions if you are a rider that does not move around a lot on your seat,(like one of my riding buddies on a Poo, whom i I have followed on many occasions always has one ski in the air in a corner) but if you get your butt over the seat going through a corners at speed it just carves. My other riding buddy on an Apex gt started last season on the yammy dual skis after a few rides he was not happy with them. After riding mine a few times, he got some semi aggressive trackers for his old 5.7 pilots and has never looked back, they have stayed on till the present and he is still the fastest sled in our group, so no lose of speed. I have about 3000 miles on mine so far and they still look like new.

 

[Paraclete]

I think I will do the semi aggressive. I am not a hard core push it to the edge rider so I think the semis will work best for me.

 

[slimjim2525]

Aggressive trackers and pilots here, thanks to KnappAttack's advice on a pm over 2 years ago. My sled goes where ever I point it, at any speed, in all conditions. No darting. You can high side it in hard conditions if you are a rider that does not move around a lot on your seat,(like one of my riding buddies on a Poo, whom i I have followed on many occasions always has one ski in the air in a corner) but if you get your butt over the seat going through a corners at speed it just carves. My other riding buddy on an Apex gt started last season on the yammy dual skis after a few rides he was not happy with them. After riding mine a few times, he got some semi aggressive trackers for his old 5.7 pilots and has never looked back, they have stayed on till the present and he is still the fastest sled in our group, so no lose of speed. I have about 3000 miles on mine so far and they still look like new.

So ski doo pilot skis will bolt right up to an apex, no mods?

 

[2BLUE4U]

Bergstrom Triple Points with ski-savers...very expensive but more than likely the last set you'll ever buy. No darting and corners awesome.

do the ski savers mount under the carbides? Do they really make much of a difference?

Will I have to change my center spring to add or lessen ski pressure?

Yes, ski savers go under the carbide and make a huge difference. I didn't change anything else. I was more than happy with the set up

 

[Paraclete]

I checked out the ST site and they say to adjust strap and center shock. This is what I have now.

Front shock at about 1.5 out of 3"

Center shock

strap
I might be able to get one more hole out of it

 

[THKSNOW]

It sounds to me some really like the way the snow trackers work while others think otherwise... I've never used them and thought they might be the way to go. I was doing some research and found this:

http://www.hardcoresledder.com/forums/3 ... ident.html

 

[779cookies]

"So ski doo pilot skis will bolt right up to an apex, no mods?"


You get mxz rubbers from skidoo (I don't remember the part#) and flip one of the ski bushings to the outside to fit the spindles and bolt them up.

 

[Riceburner]

It sounds to me some really like the way the snow trackers work while others think otherwise... I've never used them and thought they might be the way to go. I was doing some research and found this:

http://www.hardcoresledder.com/forums/3 ... ident.html

Knowledge level is higher and BS level and spam lower on TY than HCS.



Not sayin HCS info aint so but I have over 5,000 miles on Trackers with no issues. Many other knowledgable members like K Viper have that many & more. Maybe the HCS guy did not have their sleds set up right. I dunno.

If they were junk, you would have heard it here too.

 

[THKSNOW]

It sounds to me some really like the way the snow trackers work while others think otherwise... I've never used them and thought they might be the way to go. I was doing some research and found this:

http://www.hardcoresledder.com/forums/3 ... ident.html

Knowledge level is higher and BS level and spam lower on TY than HCS.



Not sayin HCS info aint so but I have over 5,000 miles on Trackers with no issues. Many other knowledgable members like K Viper have that many & more. Maybe the HCS guy did not have their sleds set up right. I dunno.

If they were junk, you would have heard it here too.

Oh, I agree with you. My only thought about posting it was this: it didn't appear you could just slap on the Snowtrackers and ride without considering making changes in the way the sled is set up.

 

[KnappAttack]

It sounds to me some really like the way the snow trackers work while others think otherwise... I've never used them and thought they might be the way to go. I was doing some research and found this:

http://www.hardcoresledder.com/forums/3 ... ident.html

I ran them on my ProCross and they grip so hard they broke the sway bar bushings. Also found out real quick the Turbo Cat ProCross has a real high center of gravity. I almost rolled the top heavy Procross when the swaybar bushing broke. I got lucky is all.

They work awesome on my 1200's and worked just as good if not better on my Yamaha's.

 

[Rockmeister]

They work very well on the Yamahas, low ski pressure is your best bet.

They do NOT work well on the Procross, they flipped Superfast a couple times last year.
One was a very serious flip at speed.

When they do flip you, it is an incredibly fast thing with no warning.

We think it may be the difference in the chassis between the 2 sleds.

(I know Mike has had great luck with the Procross & Snowtrackers, Superfast hasn't been that lucky. EDIT Mike HASN'T had great luck with the ProCross & Snowtrackers. lol )

I also know that any snow with an ice crust on top of it, can grab your skis & instantly flip you, a more aggressive carbide will sometimes enhance that effect.

Personally, I have had it happen ONCE in 2 years with my Snowtrackers, was taking it easy in a straight line waiting to pass some people, when the Snowtrackers just grabbed and pulled incredibly hard to the left.
I managed to hold onto the bars and keep them from being ripped from my hands.
However, it has made me think of going to the less aggressive ones...

 

[cannondale27]

I noticed that this year Yamaha is offering SnoTrackers in their accessory catalog. Never tried them myself but that is for sure a big endorsement for them.

 

[thor452]

depends on the sled i run agressive and love everything about them.

 

[KnappAttack]

They do NOT work well on the Procross, they flipped Superfast a couple times last year.
One was a very serious flip at speed.

When they do flip you, it is an incredibly fast thing with no warning.

We think it may be the difference in the chassis between the 2 sleds.

(I know Mike has had great luck with the Procross & Snowtrackers, Superfast hasn't been that lucky.)

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That is correct, they do not work so well on the ProCross. The ProCross is top heavy and tippy form the start with good carbides, as well as having a great deal of flex and slop in the steering for less than a precise feel.

I took them off the ProCross because I did not like them on there, well I didn't like any carbide on the ProCross, oh heck I just didn't like the ProCross. The only reason I didn't crash with it was I just got lucky plain and simple. It went without warning too, I figured that was the instant the swaybar bushing broke though and chalked it up to that.

Never had anything even similar on my Doo or Yamahas. Always in control, just don't let the steering get sloppy.